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If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
(June 26, 2017 at 5:11 pm)Chad32 Wrote:
(June 26, 2017 at 3:40 pm)SteveII Wrote: Your whole premise is flawed. 

1. God did not create evil. Evil is the absence of good. As Augustine said 1700 years ago: "Evil has no positive nature; but the loss of good has received the name 'evil.'"
2. Giving people free will mean giving them the ability to choose evil.
3. Creating a world of creatures without free will would be pointless. Everything would be deterministic and essentially robotic. No love, no companionship, no meaningful relationships. 
4. God does not send us to hell. Because God is completely both Holy and Just, we cannot be reconciled to him without having something cleanse us of our unholiness. He has provided such a way. If we refuse the free gift, it is us who send ourselves to eternal separation from God.

Your premise is quite flawed as well.

I believe there is a verse that says he does, in fact, create evil. But even without that, he does claim some things he doesn't like is evil. He creates us with the ability to choose to do things he doesn't approve of, and calls those things evil. Even if they're things that are fundamental to our physical and mental health. Whether he personally throws us into hell or not, he's still responsible for that place being there, and for torturing people in fire for eternity, according to mainstream christianity. This is why people compare him to a mob boss that destroys your establishment because you didn't pay him protection money. Or an abusive parent/spouse. Calling him holy or just is a pretty wild claim, given his actions.

Yep, the old battered spouse mentality. Or slave mentality. We should absolutely DESPISE a god who created us with minds that are capable of twisting enough to be comfortable with that and not the least bit ashamed.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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The intelligent design - by KerimF - June 29, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: If God of Abraham is true... - by KerimF - June 29, 2017 at 5:39 pm
RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - June 30, 2017 at 3:27 am
RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - July 1, 2017 at 4:20 am
RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - July 1, 2017 at 12:52 pm
RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: If God of Abraham is true etc - by Cyberman - June 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm

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