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If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
(June 26, 2017 at 7:30 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(June 26, 2017 at 6:28 pm)Godscreated Wrote: No, they were not. Lucifer chose to oppose God, he wasn't created for to be Satan and the demons, I'm supposing you are referring to the fallen angels they made their choice, too.

GC

That would mean that God doesn't know everything; which means he lied over and over when he revealed the Bible.

I pretty much believe that to make any sense out of the "I know everything" claim; I am forced to meet a conclusion that he created everything, knowing exactly what the creation's destiny would be. The creation chose what to do, and God knows it even before he makes the creation.

Even humans are capable somehow to know what their creations would do: any engineer or a simple coffee make can fill us in about "the expected destiny" of their creation.

But in God's case; that destiny is already at place.

We live in a universe where history is alive and well. Far stars for example are mere histories. Their state in the past just reached us represented in light.
Destiny, fate are just similar.

God knows that Satan would choose to be a demon. That's what Satan chose. But God is all knowing after all.

(June 26, 2017 at 7:28 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  No, because He's a loving god who desires a relationship with us. God insecure that's a laugh, He was living an eternally just fine without us, He created us so we could enjoy Him and those wonderful things He would provide, it's to bad you haven't experienced such a relationship with Him.

GC


The bald sentence is like a description of an alien organism that is investigating life on earth.
God is a maker. He creates. That's what he does.

If he loves people so much; why is he torturing them in hell; or on earth?
God is not even close to an emotion pipe that spurts love and hate like an alien. "Emotions" are created an embedded in us. It's a human thing.

God has certain features that can be understood through what he revealed; prophets spent years and even died trying to explain what God is to humanity.

And just as soon as you can prove these prophets weren't just psychotic and/or lying, that would be a good opportunity to start convincing people. But at the moment all it does it make it sound like I could take serious advantage of you in a con job if I was a less scrupulous person. I seriously don't get how you can defend the idea that a god cannot, or will not, speak directly and clearly to their creation as a whole without relying on fallible proxies and never bothering to do anything at all to resolve any of the conflicts or contradictions within the messages being delivered.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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Messages In This Thread
The intelligent design - by KerimF - June 29, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: If God of Abraham is true... - by KerimF - June 29, 2017 at 5:39 pm
RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - June 30, 2017 at 3:27 am
RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - July 1, 2017 at 4:20 am
RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - July 1, 2017 at 12:52 pm
RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 7:49 pm
RE: If God of Abraham is true etc - by Cyberman - June 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm

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