RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
June 26, 2017 at 11:39 pm
(June 26, 2017 at 7:30 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(June 26, 2017 at 6:28 pm)Godscreated Wrote: No, they were not. Lucifer chose to oppose God, he wasn't created for to be Satan and the demons, I'm supposing you are referring to the fallen angels they made their choice, too.
GC
That would mean that God doesn't know everything; which means he lied over and over when he revealed the Bible.
I pretty much believe that to make any sense out of the "I know everything" claim; I am forced to meet a conclusion that he created everything, knowing exactly what the creation's destiny would be. The creation chose what to do, and God knows it even before he makes the creation.
Even humans are capable somehow to know what their creations would do: any engineer or a simple coffee make can fill us in about "the expected destiny" of their creation.
But in God's case; that destiny is already at place.
We live in a universe where history is alive and well. Far stars for example are mere histories. Their state in the past just reached us represented in light.
Destiny, fate are just similar.
God knows that Satan would choose to be a demon. That's what Satan chose. But God is all knowing after all.
Let me ask you a question and then we can go from your answer, what is the meaning of God being omnipresent?
(June 26, 2017 at 7:28 pm)Godscreated Wrote: No, because He's a loving god who desires a relationship with us. God insecure that's a laugh, He was living an eternally just fine without us, He created us so we could enjoy Him and those wonderful things He would provide, it's to bad you haven't experienced such a relationship with Him.
GC
AtlasS33 Wrote:The bald sentence is like a description of an alien organism that is investigating life on earth.
God is a maker. He creates. That's what he does.
So that's all God is a maker and creator, then why did you call Him a tester and why test us if He is no more than a maker/creator?
AtlasS33 Wrote:If he loves people so much; why is he torturing them in hell; or on earth?
God is not even close to an emotion pipe that spurts love and hate like an alien. "Emotions" are created an embedded in us. It's a human thing.
God's not torturing anyone, those who are in hell have chosen to be separated from God, that wasn't His desire. He doesn't have to torment us on earth we do a good job of that ourselves. Sin is the reason for our difficulties here on earth. You are the one who said God test people and I have taken it to mean that He puts difficulties in our lives am I right in this assumption. If so then you are the one who should be answering your own questions. The answer to the underlined above is this, we were created in the image of God and the Bible shows us of God's emotions.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.