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If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new

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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new

June 27, 2017 at 11:28 am

(June 27, 2017 at 9:44 am)Chad32 Wrote: Just ignoring most of what I said, huh? Did you read past the sentence when I mentioned the verse?

I will expound on what I said in both posts then. It is my opinion/understanding...

Free will is required to choose evil, but even free will is really not something created like a universe or an animal. It is an ability that God created us with because it seems thinking, rational beings capable of choice, morality, and a real relationship between creator and creature seems to be the pinnacle of anything anyone could ever create--including God. If evil is defined as anything contrary to the nature/will of God, it simply does not follow that God is responsible for evil. Only moral agents are.

God does not "throw us" into anything. Hell is the result of our actions.

I think your view of hell is off. Places cannot be evil in the sense an action or a result can be (so God is still not creating evil). I believe that while it is a place of torment, one is not eternally tortured by some overlord doing things to you. We are talking about souls and NOT bodies. There is no physical pain because there is nothing physical. The pain is spiritual and stems from the complete separation from God--a condition that obviously has a profound effect on the immaterial soul.

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If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Roeki - June 25, 2017 at 6:25 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Gawdzilla Sama - June 25, 2017 at 6:49 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by WinterHold - June 25, 2017 at 6:53 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Roeki - June 25, 2017 at 10:42 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Whateverist - June 25, 2017 at 11:58 am

The intelligent design - by KerimF - June 29, 2017 at 1:33 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Whateverist - June 29, 2017 at 6:16 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 26, 2017 at 6:35 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 6:48 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 26, 2017 at 7:28 pm

If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 28, 2017 at 3:18 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 29, 2017 at 12:06 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 29, 2017 at 12:31 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 29, 2017 at 12:53 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 29, 2017 at 1:12 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 29, 2017 at 1:26 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 29, 2017 at 1:33 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 29, 2017 at 1:44 am

If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 29, 2017 at 9:24 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 29, 2017 at 9:47 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 30, 2017 at 1:59 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Whateverist - June 30, 2017 at 2:03 am

If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 30, 2017 at 2:34 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make . - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 29, 2017 at 2:06 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true... - by KerimF - June 29, 2017 at 5:39 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 29, 2017 at 11:43 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - June 30, 2017 at 3:27 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 30, 2017 at 1:51 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - July 1, 2017 at 4:20 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - July 1, 2017 at 12:14 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, - by KerimF - July 1, 2017 at 12:52 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 11:26 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 25, 2017 at 12:01 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Roeki - June 25, 2017 at 12:49 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 25, 2017 at 1:12 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Brian37 - June 28, 2017 at 6:43 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 28, 2017 at 9:26 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Aliza - June 28, 2017 at 12:14 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 1:24 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 1:08 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Cyberman - June 25, 2017 at 12:55 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Huggy Bear - June 25, 2017 at 3:11 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 5:28 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Nay_Sayer - June 26, 2017 at 6:20 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by WinterHold - June 26, 2017 at 7:19 pm

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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by WinterHold - July 4, 2017 at 2:28 am

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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 26, 2017 at 6:28 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by WinterHold - June 26, 2017 at 7:30 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 7:49 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 26, 2017 at 11:39 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 11:42 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Chad32 - June 25, 2017 at 10:59 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Roeki - June 25, 2017 at 11:54 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Cyberman - June 25, 2017 at 3:23 pm

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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Huggy Bear - June 26, 2017 at 11:33 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 11:37 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 25, 2017 at 5:24 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 25, 2017 at 6:46 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 7:31 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 26, 2017 at 3:39 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by bennyboy - June 26, 2017 at 4:53 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 11:15 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design etc - by Cyberman - June 26, 2017 at 10:20 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Huggy Bear - June 26, 2017 at 10:23 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Cyberman - June 26, 2017 at 11:02 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Huggy Bear - June 26, 2017 at 12:49 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Cyberman - June 26, 2017 at 1:43 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by SteveII - June 26, 2017 at 3:40 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Chad32 - June 26, 2017 at 5:11 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 6:29 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by SteveII - June 27, 2017 at 8:34 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 7:28 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 26, 2017 at 11:13 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 11:18 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Godscreated - June 26, 2017 at 11:44 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 11:53 pm

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by Chad32 - June 27, 2017 at 9:44 am

RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new - by SteveII - June 27, 2017 at 11:28 am

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