(June 29, 2017 at 9:58 am)Khemikal Wrote:(June 29, 2017 at 12:45 am)Godscreated Wrote: No, He couldn't have done anything different, if He could have don't you think He would have spared Jesus the horrors He had to endure, I know he would have. You seem to live on the edge of insanity. It's the way that the creator pays for and corrects what the created did. You yourself have said many times that God should fix this messed up world, He did and you have yet to realize it.Seems like an arbitrary limit to the ability and wisdom of god, in service of conveniently excusing base immorality. In any case, if that's true, and almighty god, the lord of creation, couldn't just do what humans do routinely - and he couldn't find a way other than stringing some poor fucker up, I don't want anything to do with that or that god.
It's useless, to me.
There was no limit, God made the ultimate sacrifice because man has screwed everything up He went as far as was possible for us. I know your feelings about Christianity, but a God who would sacrifice what He did should say something to you about how much He cares.
Quote:Do you know what omnipresence is, as pertaining to God?
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Khemikal Wrote:Sure, a claimed attribute of a fictional entity. One wonders whether you believe it anyway. Is god omnipresent at the tip of the peen in every sexual assualt? Riding in and out? Victim screaming, perp grunting...god, silent?
Useless to me, obviously useless to the victim - handy for the perp.
I didn't think you knew what it meant, your dodging the question because you don't want to be wrong about this. Well you are and we know it don't we. Try again this time say something reasonable instead of the same ol' trash atheist throw around, it's unbecoming of the intelligent.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.