RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 30, 2017 at 10:16 pm
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2017 at 10:56 pm by Godscreated.)
(June 30, 2017 at 11:41 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:Godscreated Wrote:Don't you get tired of using the same ol' statement that has been shown to be false.
GC
I don't recall ever having made that exact statement previously, so I don't see why I would be tired of it. But I love finding out I'm wrong about something: I seem to have been out the day my statement was shown to be false, would you demonstrate its falseness again please, so that I may be enlightened?
Read what you wrote then go check it against the Bible.
GC
(June 30, 2017 at 1:26 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:(June 29, 2017 at 12:45 am)Godscreated Wrote: No, He couldn't have done anything different, if He could have don't you think He would have spared Jesus the horrors He had to endure, I know he would have. You seem to live on the edge of insanity. It's the way that the creator pays for and corrects what the created did. You yourself have said many times that God should fix this messed up world, He did and you have yet to realize it.
If God could not have done anything differently, then he is not omnipotent.
Omnipotence has nothing to do with how God must deal with sin. He wiped out man once and we didn't learn. God's omnipotence doesn't allow Him to force you into Christianity. God is limited in certain ways because of who He is, that should be obvious if you've ever read the Bible.
GC
(June 29, 2017 at 11:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(June 29, 2017 at 10:27 pm)Godscreated Wrote: There was no limit, God made the ultimate sacrifice because man has screwed everything up He went as far as was possible for us. I know your feelings about Christianity, but a God who would sacrifice what He did should say something to you about how much He cares.Well, if there was no limit (amusing. since two posts ago you told me that god couldn;t have done anything different..your beliefs are strangely movable)
I was referring to God's limitlessness in His sacrifice, so the two statements go hand in hand. God did the only thing He could and did it with no limitations.
Khemikal Wrote:god could have achieved this some other way..some way other than the abject depravity of a blood sacrifice carried out upon another. What is he supposed to have sacrificed, A few nights of his eternal weekend? Talk about finding a way to make a shitty thing even shittier by handling it in a trivial way.
The Son gave up more than you can imagine, He is eternally bound to a physical body, He being creator of man had to endure the humiliation at the hands of those He created. He has endured the rejection of His love through the sacrifices He made, that's just a few things. You're so smart tell us what else God could have done and still preserved mans free choice of accepting or rejecting Him. Don't forget the first sin was paid for with blood, you need to consider that in your attempt to be smarter than God.
Khemikal Wrote:Stalkers "care" too, caring counts for shit when the subject is vicarious redemption. Didn't care enough to do it some other, limitless way, huh? So I guess that's another brick in the wall of bones. Not only does "god" decide for no specific limitations to do the unthinkable, in a trivial way..because of it he damns any person who will not accept the fruit from the poisoned tree - any person who cannot in good conscience and will not accept the death of another for his own misdeeds. What a spectacular failure.
You call it vicarious redemption and rightly so, but then you demean what you say by saying it was no big deal, "He gave up one weekend." I'll be waiting on your powers of reasoning that goes beyond what God knows needed to happen.
Khemikal Wrote:Or maybe all of this shit is made up. Gee........lemme think.
Yes please do, thinking through reasoning is something you do poorly when it comes to God.
Quote:I didn't think you knew what it meant, your dodging the question because you don't want to be wrong about this. Well you are and we know it don't we. Try again this time say something reasonable instead of the same ol' trash atheist throw around, it's unbecoming of the intelligent.
GC
Khemikal Wrote:So he's not there, on the tip of every assaulting peen..or?
I believe I'm seeing you scared to honestly answer a question, what's the problem, don't want others to see you get something wrong, to late they already have. Aswer like the smart person you say you are.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.