(July 5, 2017 at 4:31 pm)Astonished Wrote:(July 5, 2017 at 1:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote: That is highly subjective. No parent, regardless of religion likes others telling them how to raise their kids. It would depend on what they are selling the kid. I do think if you are selling a child bigoted superior crap and basing that on religion, that can have a negative effect on the child setting them up not to have good social skills.
But is is impossible to prevent parents in the civil west from them selling their kids the religions of their parents. Even liberal theists sell their children their religions. So this would be a "depends" not an absolute.
You fail to recognize the distinction between indoctrination and teaching. Telling a child selectively edited excerpts from the bible if they believe those are good morality tales is one thing, telling them that they are true, forbidding them to question it, and every other horrible thing that comes along with real indoctrination, THAT is what is violates those children's human rights. Using those as fairy tales in the same was as Aesop's fables and Grimm stories is entirely fine, as they won't become any more prevalent in those kids' lives than the latter examples.
That being said, fuck those parents who complain about not being able to brainwash their kids.
I don't think it is mentally healthy at all to tell a kid about everyone around them that disagrees with them, "They are all evil and will burn in hell, so don't be like them", is really abuse I agree much to the same degree if those same parents convinced an underage kid they should not get medical treatment.
The disgusting irony about the far right in America is that they are all ready to teach their own kids absolutism while rightfully pointing out the abuse in the east of the parents indoctrinating their kids to the point of absolutism.