(July 5, 2017 at 7:37 pm)Luckie Wrote:(July 5, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Drich Wrote: No. You will be judged just like everyone else based on what God gave you to deal with and how you dealt with your life. If God sent you straight to Hell that would be the unforgivable sin, and the bible does not label it as such. There is only one unforgivable sin and that is blaspheme of the holy Spirit.
Thaaaatssss the one, Lek. Fuck the Holy Spirit and fuck your god.
All talk and no action still?
My DOG is more moral than the god of Abraham. If I go to hell for rejecting him so be it. At least I won't be a hypocritical butt sniffer who is too weak to stand up for what's right. What if you were killed in a car crash and your wife lost all hope and killed herself? Would you be like, oh okay I guess she deserves what she gets godman, you're totally awesome let's go back to singing your praise while you watch her get tossed in a fiery lake and tormeted.. forever ?
(July 4, 2017 at 8:24 pm)Astonished Wrote:
I love that you can have that outlook and proclaim it so confidently. I haven't endured that much by comparison but (and I am not so naive that I don't realize it comes out rather frequently and easily) it's made me very bitter and I don't generally enjoy life very much because I don't have a very easy time seeing the good. I wish I had the kind of strength you do. But then I see parents leading kids down the same path I nearly got led down if a few more bad turns had let certain folk be more present in my early life than they otherwise did...it shatters all the potential good I can see beyond them.
Even better, you can say it to every theist who thinks they've got the right idea about how we do feel, or should feel, when things aren't their brightest. Let it snap their necks with how fiercely it shocks them to hear that they're dead wrong. And be proud everything didn't make you feel so weak and worthless that you had to turn to an imaginary friend just to survive or feel better. Every supposedly inspirational story from the faithful I've ever heard combined can't hold a candle to that.
It was hard and still is, when things are at their worst for me, to have my family either try to console me with heaven and think I'll come running back.
On the other hand it's equally as hard to know what to say to them when they go through their own hardships! Just because you don't believe doesn't mean you are excluded from the apathy and desolation you may feel in this life about yourself or for others. I heard this in a song last fall and it stuck: "Don't be fooled by the emptiness, because there's so much room left for happiness!"
Yes, our hearts break and we must rebuild them. Life fails us and we have to deal with it. I've had countless doctors straight up shake their heads when they meet me after having read my chart, and say they aren't sure if they'd be able to live my life, even having some say they'd have given up long ago. I tell them there's no way I could live their lives, and just stop that nonsense right there and then!
As for finding good amidst the bad, I heard someone on this forum say once, that they asked their mom about why there's so much suffering in the world. She said, look for the helpers. They're always out there.
I am a helper. I am a survivor. I've been through too much to give up now, and when I do die I hope it isn't in a hospital. That is all, and for me, it's enough. Keep searching for your own piece of happpiness in this life, I hope you find it!
How fucking unprofessional of those doctors to editorialize like that! Fucking dickholes, you're not paying them to critique your health or condition, just to treat or evaluate it medically (if it's possible to do.) But I do wish I had some semblance of family to help during my darkest times, sitting alone in an orphanage staring at the walls with nothing but the smell of piss, shit and vomit to entertain me, or living out of a borrwoed car after I turned 18 because the system fucking sucks for emancipated foster youth.
But I do have a lot of helpers now, thankfully, I've just got bad problems with depression so it's hard to feel good about that unless it's staring me in the face, and even then internally I feel like I don't deserve it. But I can't blame religion for making me feel that way, just simple parental neglect.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
