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Christianity and Suicide
RE: Christianity and Suicide
(July 5, 2017 at 8:32 am)Jesster Wrote:
(July 5, 2017 at 1:15 am)Godscreated Wrote: I see things far clearer than you can imagine, I don't wear blinders. I understand you do not believe, but just because you do not believe doesn't make the only God not real. none of the other so called gods have ever tried to contact me, the God of creation and salvation brought me into a belief of Him and the proved himself to me. I'm not at fault for your disbelief nor is God, he's given you the choice between Him and yourself, the same as He did with Adam and Eve. My Christian walk has change over the years somethings I was dead set on I'm no longer holding on to them, it's a growth process that takes a life time and more, just as life in human relationships. The difference is that I can have this relationship for eternity.

GC

I understand that there could exist things that I do not yet believe in. Until I have a good reason to believe in them, though, I am not going to. Your confidence level alone is not a good enough reason. People of other religions are as confident in their beliefs, if not more so, than you. Why should I believe your claims over theirs?

I'm 100% sure that God exists, He has without doubt shown himself to me. What you believe is your choice, I can't nor would I try to make it for you.

Jesster Wrote:Are you understanding my position yet? So far you are just repeating the fact that you are confident in your beliefs.


That is all Christ said I needed to do, show others why I believe. This is what I do here, I do not beat anyone over the head or shove it down their throats.

Jesster Wrote:That's not going to do it for me. I'm very open minded, but I need more than that to go on before my mind will be changed. I'm also not trying to persuade you out of your beliefs at all, because I don't care at all what you happen to believe. I'm just wondering why you're putting so much effort into trying to persuade others without anything solid to actually give them. God has never shown up to give me any real reason to believe, despite my many years of devout belief, so maybe you can do something where he has not. I'm all ears.

I can't do anymore than give my reasons for my belief. What is it you would have me to do, give you proof of God, that's what He does when you come to faith in Him. I keep trying because I care even if you do not believe I do. God has said He will always be there for those who truly want to know Him. Like you have said others in there religions are devout and I agree, but it gets them nowhere because their faith is misplaced, could it be that back when you misplaced your faith for some reason and missed the actual call of God. You wouldn't be the first, many preachers have found they did after many years in the pulpit, most of them finial understood and gave themselves to God.

GC[/quote]

(July 5, 2017 at 10:30 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
Godscreated Wrote: Mine is the genuine thing with the real living God, all others are not. God said there are no other gods outside of Me. Being the creator He would know.

GC

God seems a little inconsistent on that point. God demoted the other gods to mortality in Psalms 82 for being unjust.

No, sorry but this Psalm is about men judging men unjustly. In verse 6 God says they will die as any other man would. Some believe this is speaking of angels but, that can't be because angels do not judge man. These men are representatives of God, because by His power they are in positions of authority over other men. Jesus quoted Psalm 82:6 in John 10: 34-35 and said these were those the word was sent to and man only receives the word of God. These were not other gods demoted, God is and always has been the only God.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Christianity and Suicide - by Der/die AtheistIn - June 30, 2017 at 4:18 pm
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RE: Christianity and Suicide - by Jehanne - July 5, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Christianity and Suicide - by Minimalist - June 30, 2017 at 7:48 pm
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