Christianity and Suicide

[Mystical]

See they assume you have issues if you don't believe lIke they do. It's a typical cult tactic actually; they probably don't even know what they're doing. Bouncing off one another, assuming someone's "eternal life and faith" are in peril anytime something bad happens to someone. When their targets are at their weakest, and are more willing to open their minds to the idea that they are flawed and that's why things aren't going right. You see it taught and preached by Prosperity pastors across the globe. 
It's quite convenient, to claim someone's lost their way and pressure them to give up their will in show of faith. To pound into them that they are worthless and hopeless without their god.

If god were a boyfriend, he'd be flagged as an abusive gaslighter and that's that.

Getting you to share the very personal reasons why you ejded up in non belief, along with how you were as a believer, is classic apolologist mindfuckery. As long as we are talking about whats wrong with you, we arent talking about whats wronv with them or their god.

It's a unique tool used to overcome the hurdles of the cognative dissonance needed, in order to believe that they aren't just prayin to their own brain. Sure it's nice to believe there's a big god orchestrating everything, that's why they can believe that their prayers matter so much. They reason why god listens to them while at the same time ignoring the fact that vulture baby's prayers, do not. That god would help them find their lost keys or get that job promotion whilst sex slaves, refugees, or impoverished Christians all over Asia and Africa fall victim to starvation, war crimes, persecution and death. They blame suffering on the suffering, or those who do not believe in their religion. Meanwhile In truth religion and superstition is to blame for most of the nonsense on this planet!

Honestly I find it distasteful to say the least, these "innocent" questions about your lack of belief or reflecting your questions about theiR reasons for believing back at you. Because we all know they're going to claim they know where you went wrong. Tell you that you did it wrong, to go back to square one. Claim you weren't a true Christian, that's why you didn't fine their god. If Lek, Drich, and GC had a faith and beliefs comparison I guarantee they'd figure out they all have their own versions of god they believe in, it's not one shared being like they find comfort in claiming.

If I seem bitter towards them, I am. I've heard from these very Christians that morality is so objective that if god told them to smash babies heads over rocks or tear fetuses out of women's wombs with swords as ordered by OT god, they would. I've heard the sLavery apologetics, the "those were different times" argument. They sicken me, all of them. 

Carry on though, by all means. It's interesting to watch scavengers pick over what they consider to be an easy meal. I like you, am curious as to why they are repeatedly repudiated and still stick to their beliefs based solely on ..feelings. Are they really that dumb or do they have alterior motives? I'm mainly confused why they hang around proving what absolute shit their religious beliefs are and yet that realization doesn't seem to penetrate their skills for some reason.

Sorry but it's sickening to watch raptors pick on a rabbit with the pretense of flowers and roses and daisies.

@GC I'd like to ask again of you since Lek tapped out. What if your wife lost all reason to live after your death, and did the unthinkable? Additionally what if against your baseless beliefs god actually went through with his promise to toss her in hell for eternity ?
You good with that?

So here's where we left off last we talked about hell and eternity. Got any new zingers now that your wife's soul is on the line?

GC,
Please provide referebce for your claim of your version of hell. This is the hell Ive found biblical reference for :

Romans 1
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

Matthew 25:46 NIV
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."


... And Hell is a sulfery fiery torment for eternity.

Revelations 21
8 But for the cowardly and [d]unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and [e]brimstone, which is the second death.”

Revelations 14 (NEW TESTAMENT)
9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”

Revelations 19
“Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God, for true and just are his judgments. He has condemned the great prostitute who corrupted the earth by her adulteries. He has avenged on her the blood of his servants.”

And again they shouted: “Hallelujah! The smoke from her goes up for ever and ever.”

Revelations 20:10
And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beastu and the false prophetv had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him.

(Rev. 19:19-21)
But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

1 John 5:12
He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Acts 4:12
12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."

1 John 5:10-12
The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son. And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.

Matthew 10:33
33 "But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.


Revelations 14
9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

Jeremiah states,

"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)

@ luckie, I haven't answered your question because it took me many years of study, prayer and coming to an understanding of God to come to my belief of hell, I've stated many times it's not what most believe but for me it's the one that makes sense. I believe that the way I see hell makes it far worse than a hell of fire, physical pain can be far less painful than the mental anguish people bring upon their lives and to have eternity to do so, well I can't think of a worse way to live. Also one doing the punishing, not God, God is giving people a place to do that, all together. Man can not understand what it's like to be without any love, especially God's love. Even though many do not believe in Him that doesn't mean they do not receive His love, I believe that's why hell is described as a place of fire and brimstone, man's limited mind can not understand anything worse. As Forrest Gump said, "that's all I have to say about that."

GC