Christianity and Suicide

[Jesster]

Again, you're fishing for an answer from me where there is none. How can I believe in the knowledge of a god if I don't believe in the god? The bible doesn't mean anything to me at this point. I don't keep one handy and I'm not about to go fishing one out now either. It's a waste of time for me because I don't believe in any of it. It's a far better use of my time while dealing with religious people to talk to them about what they believe. I have no beliefs here, so why don't you tell me yours instead so we can actually accomplish something?

This is the best I can give you here, GC. This isn't about judgement to me. It's about following a line of logic.

 Okay, I want ask anymore, but I was honestly curious.
 Now I do not believe a person can be a Christian and not know Christ. I use the word know in it's real sense. Belief in something is a knowledge of something, even if it is very limited knowledge. This is a must as I read the scriptures, Paul told us that we could know God and live in a relationship with Him. Now to know God and live in a relationship with Him has to mean one understands somethings about God to be true and His existence would be the first thing. So it baffles me as to how people can say they were former Christians, I can't understand how someone can know God and then say they do not believe in His existence.

GC

Oh, I didn't know you were using knowledge in that sense. Usually I classify knowledge as a subset of belief instead of the other way around like you are here. I'm not going to get into tearing down those definitions, since that's not going to get us anywhere. What's more important is that you're saying here that belief is what is necessary for Christianity. Okay, I'll work with what you're using there. I believed and now I don't. People can change their beliefs all the time. What's so difficult to understand about that? It's called being open-minded and willing to challenge your beliefs based on new information. I kept exploring the world around me until my beliefs, even if they were strong beliefs at some point, did not hold up against what I kept experiencing. I kept wanting to believe, but had fewer reasons to do so every day. I had to do the honest thing at some point and admit that I could not possibly cling to my old beliefs any longer.