Christianity and Suicide

[Godscreated]

 Okay, I want ask anymore, but I was honestly curious.
 Now I do not believe a person can be a Christian and not know Christ. I use the word know in it's real sense. Belief in something is a knowledge of something, even if it is very limited knowledge. This is a must as I read the scriptures, Paul told us that we could know God and live in a relationship with Him. Now to know God and live in a relationship with Him has to mean one understands somethings about God to be true and His existence would be the first thing. So it baffles me as to how people can say they were former Christians, I can't understand how someone can know God and then say they do not believe in His existence.

GC

Oh, I didn't know you were using knowledge in that sense. Usually I classify knowledge as a subset of belief instead of the other way around like you are here. I'm not going to get into tearing down those definitions, since that's not going to get us anywhere. What's more important is that you're saying here that belief is what is necessary for Christianity.

Yes, it is paramount. How else would one live in a relationship with God? People do not live in relationships without knowing the other one in that relationship.

 Okay, I'll work with what you're using there. I believed and now I don't. People can change their beliefs all the time. What's so difficult to understand about that? It's called being open-minded and willing to challenge your beliefs based on new information.

I agree that people can change their beliefs, I've changed mine within my relationship with God and it has strengthened me, especially in my knowledge of Him. I've come to a greater understanding of God and why He has saved me. 
Tell me how can someone know another then say they were not real and that they do not believe they ever existed?
In the short time we've been communicating I know you are a real person and I could never deny your existence. If I did people would tell me I was crazy. I do hear that here quite a lot because of my undying belief in God. Strange, if I denied the one I'm called crazy and if I do not deny the latter I'm crazy.

I kept exploring the world around me until my beliefs, even if they were strong beliefs at some point, did not hold up against what I kept experiencing. I kept wanting to believe, but had fewer reasons to do so every day. I had to do the honest thing at some point and admit that I could not possibly cling to my old beliefs any longer.

Seems to me your beliefs were not knowing but was in thinking God is real, your comments lead me to believe you decided that God's not real, so how can you have a relationship with something that's not real?  This is what I was referring to when I said it's strange how one can say they believed (having knowledge) and then they did not.[/quote]