Christianity and Suicide

[Jesster]

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Since I don't believe in this god, I can't logically accept that anyone has such a relationship.

You told me you were a former Christian, how is it that you could have been a Christian and not known God. How did you manage to carry on a relationship with Him and not know Him. This is something I just can't get my mind around.

I agree that people can change their beliefs, I've changed mine within my relationship with God and it has strengthened me, especially in my knowledge of Him. I've come to a greater understanding of God and why He has saved me. 
Tell me how can someone know another then say they were not real and that they do not believe they ever existed?
In the short time we've been communicating I know you are a real person and I could never deny your existence. If I did people would tell me I was crazy. I do hear that here quite a lot because of my undying belief in God. Strange, if I denied the one I'm called crazy and if I do not deny the latter I'm crazy.

I never said I knew any god. I believed in a god. In order for this god to be known to me, he'd have to at least meet me in the middle where I was waiting for over a decade. It's easy to disbelieve in someone who never makes themselves present for you in any way.

Okay you believed in something you didn't know and called yourself a Christian, just how does that work, not being sarcastic just trying to understand. You also told me you studied the Bible, so how is it you missed that one must come contrite to God, surrendering all of yourself to Him. This is the only way He can make you into the person He promises. The Bible teaches that God has come to you completely and awaits you to surrender yourself to Him, this is how we come to know who He is.

Again, I can't logically accept that anyone knows this god. If the evidence proved otherwise to me, I'd have to change my mind. Consistently telling me that you have your own personal evidence is not going to change my mind unless you have some way of sharing that evidence with me. This is why I told you to pray instead, because this isn't going to do anything for me unless your god also cares to reach out to me.

I am praying for you, why, because it's God not me who will convince you , you're on my mind and in my prayers day and night. I'm convinced God will speak to you. I can tell you of experiences but with the great doubt you carry at this time they probably wouldn't help at this point in time. The evidence you need is in the Bible and you can have it, ask the Holy Spirit to reveal it to you, this has to be done with an open heart which you seem to have closed off. If you happen to ask you must remember that spiritual things will happen in God's timing not yours, you may have to have a bit of patients.

I'm not sure how many times you want to repeat this bit to me, but I'm going to stop responding to it now.

I'll take this two ways, you are either losing interest or God has already started working on your heart and you're trying to avoid Him, just remember God has all the time on His side. This is not a threat from me or God, neither of this would do such a thing. I hope you do not quit responding but if you feel you must I'll still be praying.

Seems to me your beliefs were not knowing but was in thinking God is real, your comments lead me to believe you decided that God's not real, so how can you have a relationship with something that's not real?  This is what I was referring to when I said it's strange how one can say they believed (having knowledge) and then they did not.

No, I never said that. Disbelief is not the same as belief in the negative view. I can't honestly say that there absolutely is no god. I just have no reason to believe in one, either.

Okay I see what you're saying about yourself. So tell me what reason do you need, if you have done the Bible study you said you did (I'm not doubting) then how could you not see reasons to become a Christian?

I also never made a decision to disbelieve; I stopped believing because I realized that the evidence just wasn't there no matter how hard I tried to find it. It's not a choice; it's intellectual honesty.

You'll have to excuse me here because it is a choice, the intellectual honesty is an excuse. You choose to accept or reject God, I'm not going to beat around the bush on this point, I've been there and I know what you're doing to avoid God.
 

You seem to be hinting now that I'm somehow close-minded here, but that's not true at all.

I'm not saying you're close-minded, but I do think you are avoiding God. I've taught classes and a youth group and I've heard a lot of different reasons. By watching the lives of people I have been able to see through many avoiding excuses. Remember I'm trying to be honest with you, not to would be dishonest.

I'll happily accept something real showing up in my life. So far this specific thing has not, but it's certainly welcome here if it does exist.

Studying the Bible as you said you have then you know that you will have to give up your old life and put on the new one God has for you and this is what most people find as their reason to avoid God, is this yours also.

As I said above, I was waiting half-way with a big welcome sign hung up for all to see for over a decade. Now I'm sitting back inside without the sign, but the door is still wide open and cookies are in the oven. Why else would I be bothering with this conversation with you?

And as I said above you have to come to God with a contrite heart, not waving a sign meet me over here. You are expecting God to change the way He deals with people to satisfy your self appointed needs. I can tell you that surrendering to God can be scary but once you do and see what God has for you it's worth everything you give-up. I've asked God this very thing (the above underlined), I've been asking God why am I bothering with you, I've asked Him why He wants me to and if He doesn't to let me know so I can move on. Like I've said there's nothing I can do but witness and teach, it is God's job to convince you of your need for Him. I will point out your errors and/or misunderstanding of how God works and the way the Bible teaches. You must treat this as a spiritual thing that will at times result in physical things. Living in a relationship with God is spiritual and God meets our spiritual needs in this relationship, He also will help in physical needs but the reality is spiritual living. 

You can believe what you want about me, though. If you'd like to start writing me off, I can easily move on and make this simpler for both of us. Up to you, but I'll still be waiting here.

I believe about you what I see, I see a person worth my time and energy and will continue with this as long as God doesn't direct me in another direction, why would I give up on you when God hasn't. Why do I believe He hasn't because He hasn't pointed me in another direction. I've been privileged to have a relationship with God, the One who created everything chose me, and in this relationship I've come to know Him and to a small extent how He works. Before you answer this post please take some time to think about what I've said. Please remember I'm not trying to upset you, you do not deserve such treatment, I'm being honest because I care, something God has instilled in me.
Have a great weekend,

GC

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Avoiding? GC, please don't make up details about me to make things more convenient for you. I've told you many times now that if something is true, I want nothing more than to know that truth. I'm avoiding nothing, especially when it comes to something as important as this. I've also told you how much effort I've put into my previous religious practices for just over a decade. If you don't want to believe my claims of my commitments then I don't have any reason to communicate with you any further. This isn't helping my perception of you at all right now. All I ever want is an honest conversation, and I don't feel like I'm getting that right now. Continue your prayers as you see fit and I'll keep waiting for something to happen, but I think I'm about done here now.