(July 15, 2017 at 12:03 pm)A Theist Wrote:(July 15, 2017 at 9:47 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: I give you kudos for your honesty.
Yes, I was beginning to suspect this was more about politics than religion. But so many Christians seem to think god is a conservative republican. I put you in that crowd, and for that I apologize.
Now, it's your turn to take me out of the crowd of leftest atheist or whatever. I used to think of myself as a liberal when I didn't even have enough money to be liberal with. Now, if I have to take a label, I'm a conservative democrat. If that makes no sense, good, because I don't fit squarely into anybody's box.
Thank you Rhondazvous. Much appreciated.
I raised the issue of politics because I believe the study mentioned in the OP is flawed. Like theists, atheists can't be pinned down to all believing the same way. Even in their views toward God they're different. Gnostic Atheists, Agnostic Atheists, Passive Atheists, Friendly Atheists, Indifferent Atheists,....even the well known atheist Richard Dawkins identifies himself as a "Cultural Christian".
I think it's also falsely assumed that all atheists are left leaning. Like theists, atheists are all over the political map. For example, Capn Awesome seems to lean more toward the conservative side. Tiberius and Thump seem to be more Libertarian, while Mr. McGoofass Minimalist seems to be more of the old guard establishment liberal Democrat, and then there's the more far left members here, the Bernie Bros, and one who was posting here recently who seemed to be in line with the BAMN group. I don't know if you were around on AF at the time, but there was even a well known atheist Nazi sympathizer and holocaust denier who posted on here for a short time. Can't remember who it was, but a member recognized him and called him out. That guy didn't last long. So, I think a person's political / social beliefs are a better indicator to how open minded they are. Or, it could all be as simple as the individual's own personality trait whether they're fair minded or closed minded.
Actually, I do make a distinction between liberal and left, though. You seem to be fair minded enough to me. If you label yourself a conservative Democrat that's good enough for me as far as I'm concerned. Conservative Democrat does makes sense to me, actually. My Step Father identified himself as a conservative democrat.
As far as me, I identify with conservatives. But, my strong pro union stance would put me at odds with most Republicans.
You did a lousy job of putting it this way in your prior posts.
Yes, atheists are diverse. Just like theists are diverse.
If you think Republicans are ever going to give one fuck about unions after Reagan busted the air traffic control unions and have been union busting ever since, you are a fool.
What is it about "conservatives" you identify with?
"Give billionaires tax breaks they don't need"?
" Deregulation since Reagan that has cause a bubble every decade since ending with Bush's triple whammy?"
" Xenophobia of LGBT, Hispanics, Muslims and control of women's bodies"?
You can call yourself a "Conservative democrat" if you wish, but if you stupidly think the things Reagan started and that the bigotry held by the far right is good for America, sorry, that will never be my idea of progress.
Conservatives DONT "conserve" they value selfishness greed and "fuck you I got mine".
You claim to value unions but are willing to vote for a party that has destroyed worker bargaining power for 40 years? Yep, just as insane as Caitlynn Jenner being transgender and voting for a party that hates her. The insanity is that the GOP has successfully gotten their supporters to vote against their own self interests.
