(July 18, 2017 at 10:53 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:(July 18, 2017 at 8:46 am)Godscreated Wrote: Material can not self generate from nothing, so I see no other thing to believe other than an all powerful and omniscient God created. Outside of the scriptures and common sense I can't give another answer, I wasn't there but man would I have love to have been there.
GC
I don't understand how god could just exist and never be created, since I can't understand this, I conclude that something created him. This is now evidence that their is a god superior to yours. See? This is still an argument from ignorance, you don't know therefore x. There are lots of other hypothesis other than the Big Bang to explain the universe. I'm not familiar with them as I only read about them once when I was bored in Astronomy 101. I remember one seemed to be a continuous cycle of expansion and collapse. This is not evidence for any god, it's not evidence that your god did it (as opposed to Odin, or Allah), and it certainly provides no evidence for any of this god's properties.
We know that materials can not self generate from nothing, so you see I started with accepted evidence and went from there. Your example went from "don't understand to never to can't understand" and then a conclusion. There are other ideas but they are not generally promoted by science, and none of them have any reasoning as to where the original materials came from. You don't accept it but at least I have an explanation.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.


