RE: Christianity and Suicide
July 19, 2017 at 3:29 am
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2017 at 3:32 am by Godscreated.)
(July 18, 2017 at 10:59 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:Godscreated Wrote:Putting me on ignore want keep God away and since you think it best for us to stop then that's okay with me.
GG
Someone putting you on ignore has nothing to do with keeping God away. God or no God, you're not him, not equivalent to him, and not his personal representative on earth. Passive aggressive much?
Jesster understood what I was saying and that's all that matters since this was meant for Jesster. Oh yes, I'm a representative of God on earth, Paul taught this in his writings.
Why do you think God gave us ways to live by, to make life harder for us, not hardly.
GC
Godscreated Wrote:Okay consider it a question, where did the material come from? It was never meant to throw the conversation off track, it was intended to show you that certain secular claims are not provable yet widely accepted as fact.
GC
Mister A Wrote:Any claim that doesn't have to do with theology is by default a secular claim. That doesn't mean it's our claim.
This one is and you know it.
Mister A Wrote:Here's something provable: if we haven't the slightest notion of where the material came for, it doesn't make you explanation a single atom's worth of additional weight. It's an argument from ignorance, like saying that if we don't know what happens to all the people who disappear every year, we have to take the theory that they're being abducted by aliens more seriously. We don't. If it's not known, it's not known, full stop. Any hypothesis for an explanation will have to overcome the null hypothesis of 'no, that isn't it'.
Just because you do not believe in God that doesn't make my statement invalid and it gives an explanation of how the universe started. You have no beginning, other than it was just there, stuff of fairy tales. No one has ever shown how life can self generate from chemicals, evolution has major problems at every turn, there is no evidence of how anything gets started with evolution.
Godscreated Wrote:A bit of difference with God, He has always been, never created. Don't ask me how that is possible because I can only say I can't even imagine how that's possible, most likely not understandable by man anyway.
GC
Mister A Wrote:And you know that's true because God told you.
Yes, God doesn't lie he's proven this to me.
Mister A Wrote:'When you believe in things you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way.
You have nothing because you have no first cause of the start of the universe nor life itself.
GC
(July 18, 2017 at 2:29 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(July 18, 2017 at 8:46 am)Godscreated Wrote: Material can not self generate from nothing
That looks like a positive declaration. You know this precisely how? (Note, that I'm using "know" in the sense that epistemologists use it, not your equivocating bullshit sense).
It's never been demonstrated and it's an accepted fact.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.