RE: Am I right to assume, that theists cannot prove that I am not god?
July 21, 2017 at 8:56 am
(This post was last modified: July 21, 2017 at 9:01 am by Inkfeather132.)
(July 21, 2017 at 4:33 am)Little Rik Wrote:(July 20, 2017 at 10:39 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: There are peer reviewed journals about psychology, which deals with consciousness.
WRONG.
What psychology is all about?
Psychology is the scientific study of the mind and behavior. Psychology is a multifaceted discipline and includes many sub-fields of study such areas as human development, sports, health, clinical, social behavior and cognitive processes.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=psych...e&ie=UTF-8
I wish you knew what is the difference between mind and consciousness.![]()
The mind can only grasp what is external while the consciousness is an internal process.![]()
Quote:If NDEs are capable of being verified, as you claim, then there would be at least one peer reviewed study on it.
You should ask Mr. Sam Parnia about that.
The guy studied for several years the NDEs (in fact is the one who studied more than everybody else the NDEs) and at the end he surrendered to the fact that he could not getting anywhere.
The reason is very very simple.
There is a border to cross and by trying to cross that by using the mind is an impossibility.
Is like to call a plumber when you want to fix your computer or call an electrician when you want to fix your sink pipes.
It just doesn't work Ink that is why when you want to understand the consciousness you switch off the mind and engage in yoga meditation.
Quote:You can learn things from fictional characters all the time. That's not what's at issue here. Your claim was that Jesus was actually real, not whether or not we could learn anything from him. I can't really understand what you've got against religions. You are just like they are. Make a lot of claims, but have only "I feel it in my heart!" to back them up with. You've just made a religion of one and you cling to it just as irrationally as any other religious person would.
You too feel in your heart that you are right and other people are wrong.
What this has got to do with religions?
At least I do work to expand my consciousness.
You on the other end do nothing in that regard thinking that the mind is the tool to use to understand what we do not yet know in that field.
(July 20, 2017 at 9:46 pm)Astonished Wrote: You're wasting your breath. Lickle Shit doesn't understand it, whether by choice or by genuine mental incapability.
Gee, how lucky I am to find an expert like you.![]()
Please Ast try to help LR to understand these difficult issues.
1) What is the meaning of philosophy?
2) What is the difference between religions and spirituality?
3) What determine the wealth of a country?
Thanks brother Ast.
Please help LR to understand.
con·scious·ness
ˈkän(t)SHəsnəs
noun
the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
"she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"
the awareness or perception of something by a person.
plural noun: consciousnesses
"her acute consciousness of Mike's presence"
the fact of awareness by the mind of itself and the world.
"consciousness emerges from the operations of the brain"
That's the definition of consciousness LR. Have a look at that third definition there, and notice the phrase "by the mind". You don't get to just make up meanings for words and then say I don't know what I'm talking about. Now look at this:
psy·chol·o·gy
sīˈkäləjē/
noun
the scientific study of the human mind and its functions, especially those affecting behavior in a given context.
So if psychology deals with the function of the human mind, and consciousness is the mind being aware of itself and the outside world, then psychology does deal with it. I think it's time for an English lesson. What you are describing doesn't sound like consciousness to me. It sounds like you are talking about a soul or spirit, something that interacts with the physical and non-physical worlds. If you would like to provide evidence that such a thing exists, go ahead.
I personally don't care if Mr. Parnia studied them his whole life if he didn't do it in a scientific manner, or publish a peer reviewed paper on his findings.
What "feeling in your heart" has to do with religions is: that's all they've got as evidence for their claims. And it's all you've got as evidence for your's as well. You are no different than any other theist, you just think you're better because you don't go to a church. They actually look less ridiculous than you because at least they have an external source (the Bible) to rally around and explain why they believe something. You just spout random nonsense.
Being careful is for people who can't handle surprises.