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Am I right to assume, that theists cannot prove that I am not god?
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RE: Am I right to assume, that theists cannot prove that I am not god?
(July 22, 2017 at 7:18 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 21, 2017 at 8:56 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: con·scious·ness
ˈkän(t)SHəsnəs
noun
the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
"she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"
the awareness or perception of something by a person.
plural noun: consciousnesses
"her acute consciousness of Mike's presence"
the fact of awareness by the mind of itself and the world.
"consciousness emerges from the operations of the brain"

That's the definition of consciousness LR. Have a look at that third definition there, and notice the phrase "by the mind". You don't get to just make up meanings for words and then say I don't know what I'm talking about. Now look at this:

psy·chol·o·gy
sīˈkäləjē/
noun
the scientific study of the human mind and its functions, especially those affecting behavior in a given context.

So if psychology deals with the function of the human mind, and consciousness is the mind being aware of itself and the outside world, then psychology does deal with it. I think it's time for an English lesson. What you are describing doesn't sound like consciousness to me. It sounds like you are talking about a soul or spirit, something that interacts with the physical and non-physical worlds. If you would like to provide evidence that such a thing exists, go ahead.

I personally don't care if Mr. Parnia studied them his whole life if he didn't do it in a scientific manner, or publish a peer reviewed paper on his findings.

What "feeling in your heart" has to do with religions is: that's all they've got as evidence for their claims. And it's all you've got as evidence for your's as well. You are no different than any other theist, you just think you're better because you don't go to a church. They actually look less ridiculous than you because at least they have an external source (the Bible) to rally around and explain why they believe something. You just spout random nonsense.


Wrong again Ast.

It is true that as far as the person is alive the consciousness rely on his-her body and brain to be aware.
No question about it.
It is like when you go in your car.
It is natural that you rely on such a vehicle to move from point A to point B.
That however doesn't mean that when your vehicle give up you die with your vehicle.
You are totally free to exit your vehicle and continue your journey with an other vehicle.
This happen all the time as already proved by thousand of NDEs experiences.

Just because we are stuck inside a body we tend to believe that mind and consciousness are the same thing.
This is a dogma or a false belief.
Most people find very difficult to understand this feeling to be one with the vehicle.
Smart people however do not fall in the trap.
I don't but if you do then i wish you all the best for you to wake you up ASAP.
Is just not worth to be reincarnated again and again trying to understand how the system works.
Why an intelligent person would fall in that trap?

As far as the religious argument please note that the internal knowledge is far far better than any external one.
Have you ever noticed that when you do not know something you start thinking within?
Inventors of all ages always got the sparking idea coming from within.
That is where the real knowledge lie.  


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First off, I'm not Ast dude, he's ignoring you (I guess playing with stupid trolls like you isn't as fun for him as it is for me Smile ) But this is just getting sad. All you are capable of now are assertions without even an attempt to back them up with evidence. You say the spark of an idea comes from within? You are correct. The brain is within the head after all Wink One thing I have to ask though, you said you don't believe in Hell, right? So, why are you here arguing? You're not trying to save us from anything, because there is nothing to save us from. So why is it so important to you that we believe the same things you do?
Being careful is for people who can't handle surprises.



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RE: Am I right to assume, that theists cannot prove that I am not god? - by Inkfeather132 - July 22, 2017 at 10:30 am

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