RE: Am I right to assume, that theists cannot prove that I am not god?
July 23, 2017 at 10:23 am
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2017 at 10:26 am by Inkfeather132.)
(July 23, 2017 at 6:02 am)Little Rik Wrote:(July 22, 2017 at 10:30 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: First off, I'm not Ast dude, he's ignoring you (I guess playing with stupid trolls like you isn't as fun for him as it is for me) But this is just getting sad. All you are capable of now are assertions without even an attempt to back them up with evidence. You say the spark of an idea comes from within? You are correct. The brain is within the head after all
I already explained to Ast why I did confused his name for yours.
My apologies.
As far as the brain and consciousness argument you just don't get it and I wonder if you will ever get it.
Just because the consciousness rely on the brain to be active it doesn't mean that the brain is the boss.
When you drive your vehicle you rely on the vehicle however that doesn't mean that your vehicle is in charge.
You are in charge not the other way around.
Could your vehicle drive by itself?
I guess you never though about that Ink, did you?
You keep wondering if I've thought of these things. Let me assure you I have, and then I laughed at the absurdity and moved on. If something relies on x, then that x is the boss, at least to a certain extent. They are real close to cars that can drive themselves, but that's another topic. You haven't provided any evidence that your analogy is accurate. As far as I'm concerned, I've seen no evidence that a soul exists so yes, the body does do the driving and is nothing like a car. How come when you aren't in REM sleep you can't remember what it's like? How come when people are in comas, it's like they just don't exist? How come certain brain injuries can completely change a person's personality? How come when the brain doesn't make enough of certain chemicals it is very difficult for a person to be happy? The brain seems to be the one in charge, not a soul. Where is your evidence that a soul exists? You keep bringing up NDEs, where the heart and breathing have stopped. But for the brain, it takes six minutes without oxygen for the brain to even begin to die. Who knows what supply of oxygen it had before the heart stopped? And of course the temperature of the body affects this time too, the colder you are the longer your brain can live. My point is, LR, that even when someone is clinically dead it does not mean they are brain dead, or even close. So all those NDEs could indeed be explained by the brain hallucinating as it loses oxygen and begins to die.
(July 23, 2017 at 6:02 am)Little Rik Wrote:(July 22, 2017 at 10:30 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: One thing I have to ask though, you said you don't believe in Hell, right? So, why are you here arguing? You're not trying to save us from anything, because there is nothing to save us from. So why is it so important to you that we believe the same things you do?
Is the challenge that make the life interesting Ink.
I could well go in a yoga forum and find that almost everybody agree with me.
That wouldn't be challenging and interesting.
Here on the other hand there is a lot of challenges for me and that give me satisfaction.
Nothing to do with saving you from hell.
That is your problem whether you wish to be born again and again until you get how the system works.
That however may well be a mental hell as well but if you are happy as you are that's ok. with me.
Sure, I like a good challenge. And you absolutely are one since you refuse to back up anything you say with actual evidence. But it's fun, so I won't complain too much
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