(July 26, 2017 at 2:49 pm)Drich Wrote:(July 26, 2017 at 1:52 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Babble babble. Do you think we care?
babble babbler, to those who keep making the same theological argument over and over about being born a christian is the only way to be saved... They might want to consider how foolish they sound. To those who think that their Christianity saves them... they too might want to consider how foolish they sound. To everyone else there should be some comfort to know that their will be a just judgement, not a judgement based on worse like, Muslim homosexual suicide, sinner excommunicated...
That the works you all keep pointing at are meaningless unless the first matter has been considered.
Just so you all stop sounding like a bunch of sundae schoolers (yes I know which Sunday and how to spell it)
Why doesn't God keep his promises then?
Why is his book full of things that we know are not true?
Why does he approve of things we no longer consider moral?
Why does he only reveal himself to some but not others?
Why doesn't he make it simple for us all to know he exists, even if we then chose to reject him?
Why does he reveal himself in ancient languages that are subject to interpretation and change?
Why is a Damascus road revelation good enough for Saul/Paul but not the rest of us?
Why does God's morality change?
Why has he been reduced into an increasing god of the gaps by further scientific enquiry?
Why do his followers still do immoral things?
Why is he silent despite requests?
Why does he require worship and enjoy the master/slave relationship?
How do you know he is moral if you unable to be certain of your own moral compass?
Why would we believe things that science has shown to be wrong?
How do you know you are not talking to yourself or an immoral being?
How is vicarious redemption fair?
Why can't you meet your burden of proof, a perfect being should easily do that?
Why do humans of other religions not counter the idea that this is all human made and how could you show the difference?
How come your religion is not unified if the truth is so self evident?
How come personal revelations vary between dominations, and why should anybody think they are relevant?
Why should the popularity of an idea contribute to its veracity?
Why should vague prophecy be compelling, other cultures have them by the bucketloads too?
Why are miracles growing less impressive by the decade as science explains more and liars and the confused are exposed?
How does a scapegoat make morality justified?
How could science explore the supernatural, and how does that counter any modern theory?
The list goes on and on and I could add more.
Atheism is the idea that Theism hasn't achieved its burden of proof.
I want to know how theism can meet that, and it never has.....
Cue oft rebutted nonsense once more,
I want the clincher; again, I will be told I don't ask in the right way or with the right 'spirit'
Colour me unsurprised.