Fucking Jack Boots

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You are comparing apples to oranges. If you are driving and you get pulled over by a cop, chances are you're already doing something illegal (violating a traffic law). That's a valid reason for you to pull over. She was subjected to a Border Patrol checkpoint. Border Patrol agents were not pulling her over because they were behind her and suspected suspicious activity, absolutely not. She wasn't in violation of any laws and the checkpoint was not on a border road or "US Port of Entry" which would reasonably require a person to be subjected to going through a citizenship verification process before they can be on their merry way. No - she was funneled off the main road, which wasn't a border road, with every other driver, to a checkpoint and being held against her will (10 seconds against one's will is 10 seconds too long) and being asked if she was a US citizen. 

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The CBP did when they violated her 4th Amendment rights. Why don't you ask the ACLU what their opinion is on the matter as well as look at the court cases referenced above, for your convenience. Homework is already done... please go have a read then come back to me and we can continue this debate.

We have road block checks here all of the time where I am required to pull over, all cars can be pulled over, no suspicious activity required. . What, no DUI road block checks where you live?

From what I've read (both my references and yours) they did not violate her 4th amendment rights. You need to read again. At BP checkpoints suspicious activity is not necessary to be asked to pull over.

ACLU has an opinion, it is not the law.

Right... because the court cases I cited were all imaginary. Nice to know you bypass everything else I've said, failing miserably to address all of the points that I made.

Furthermore: 

A road block checkpoint is not the same as a border patrol station. Road blocks are meant to temporarily block the road, hence the term "r.o.a.d. b.l.o.c.k.". The station in that woman's video had buildings that were permanent. That is the complete opposite of "temporary". 

You act as if she had a choice. She didn't. If you watched all of her six videos, you would have known that she stated very clearly that that road is the only one that goes to her home and she was being funneled to that station with every other car. 

A DUI checkpoint is not the same thing as a CBP station. They are not checking for the same thing. 


The ACLU frequently fights in courts, with their own lawyers, for the rights of US citizens when their Constitutional rights have been violated. They absolutely aren't the law, but they KNOW the law and they are an organization that contains lawyers who have licenses to practice the law and they do so daily. They are MORE than just an opinion. Nice attempt in trying to downplay the ACLU though.