There is a difference between salvation, and the rewards of Heaven

[Drich]

what a stupid question. especially from someone who will argue tooth and nail about the morality of the God of the bible, but then pretend she is above such a discussion?

AGAIN, So you can argue the actual Christianity bit, and not the straw man crap you guys keep repeating.

What "straw man?" If you think you have any more evidence for your magic baby myth than Muslims have for Allah or Jews have for Yahweh or Hindus have for Bhrama or Visnu, keep deluding yourself.

But again, if you want to go the morality route, nope sorry, the character as depicted in the bible you call God is a petty narcissistic bully and an insecure one at that.

Strawman= a subject matter of your own design, that is easy for you to attack, rather than addressing the subject matter being discussed.

Here the thing moron.. Subject matter (the term) does not lend itself to any checks or balances concerning authenticity. meaning the subject being discussed does not have to be the truth as YOU see it. it must simply conform to the context of the discussion.

Do you understand? In other words tony stark does not have to be "real" for us to have a iron man discussion. However because iron man is not real dos not mean you can just make shit up and tell people this is what iron man is. Even if you believe it to be 100% fiction there is still cannon. Cannon being a standard from which Ironman must be discussed, or otherwise the B/S you come up with can be dismissed as a strawman.

Do you get it douche bag? or should I have used my little poni instead bro-nei

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You know what, this actually gave me an idea for a second bit to add to my signature. So something good did come out of this thread.

Also find it hilarious that after I explicitly mentioned Drich being on my ignore list, the jackass thinks I can (or would bother to) read his reply to my question. If there was a worthwhile answer to any question about religion, nobody would be an atheist.

That's not true. Anytime someone want to smeckle into anything besides his wife knish, you will have to have atheism/kill God in your mind in order to feel justified in that act.

Atheism is not about answers. it is about moving goal posts so that God can never be found.

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No sorry, according to the mythology of that book, and considering how he behaves like a narcissistic asshole to even

Narcissist= someone who has an erotic interest in one's self. This use to describe someone who has masturbated. If you want to get technical, you more closely follow the direction of a narcissist than God does "According to the mythology of that book." As God has never shown sexual interest in himself.

Erotic?! the fact that you equate sexuality with narcissism says a lot about you.

Psychoanalysis. a person who suffers from narcissism, deriving erotic gratification from admiration of his or her own physical or mental attributes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism

Ah... My mistake.. You were working from the URBAN Dictionary
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...Narcissist

You weren't talkn bout da foreelz meaning yo.. You wuz mean'n the made up mean'n of da word... I gotta next time bruh..

douche

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I expect that you might be more than a little pissed to share a cubicle with me in heaven, but thems the breaks.  See you in our next shitty job, under our next shitty boss.  

yeah I was hoping to by a star ship with my potential earnings and shat-ner across the universe... The problem here is that I probably piss God off more than most of you guys.. So I imagine if there is this big public housing project/building where 'good atheist' go.. I'm probably going to be the guy who collects the government checks and fixes the toilets. At least then I could evict a few of you if you get out of hand...

Now it just dawned on me/thanks to you, I could be just another resident and have to ride the bus and share a cubical with you all....
Then I wake up in the Captain's ready room just off the bridge on my star Ship the Millennium Enterprise! Which is similar to the enterprise D, but the saucer section has been replaced with a well adapted/properly scaled Millennium falcon.

Chewy, Make it so!

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1. You have ZERO evidence your claimed God exists.

That's not true. I sat down next to a messenger of God, and He laid out my whole life past present and future, gave me direction, read my mind, put me all back to gether and sent me on my way... Which was only the first of many many experiences. all of which are not unique to me. God offers everyoe who needs this, this same attention. Just gotta do it his way not your own.

2. I am nobody's puppet regardless. 

God is not looking for puppets. He is looking for slaves.

Seriously He is but not the slaves of man/How man treats slaves But people like me to work hard, and reinvest and reinvest till we have built a sizable kingdom, then welcomes us in as family and turns over that Kingdom to use to be worked and ran in His name. This story repeats over and over through the history of the jews.

Kim Jong Un also says he and his family's will comes first, I wouldn't want to be under that fucker's rule either. 

because He like you are evil man. You know what He could do because it is well with in your scope to imagne doing it to someone. You are a designed purposed assembly of a larger componet or machine. You have one purpose in all of this universe and untill you find it you will never know contentment and joy. God knows that purpose and can plug you in to what it is you will find the most joy in. We think that happiness can be found in drug or sex or money... no these are but distractions to mask the lack of joy we were designed to generate and have flow through us to others.

I experienced this joy for but a moment and long to return to it. The point? Unless you find and harness the endless joy we have been designed to be a conduit for you will need constant diversion constant sirts of happiness to help mask the emptiness inside of you. And that is why you don't want to be a puppet. you don't ant to let go the things that bring you happiness, because that masks your true emptiness.

What if you didn't have to give up anything you did not want to give up?

The God of the bible through grace is patent. Not that you don't need to change, he can wait with you so long as you keep growning till you genuinely want change.

If you enjoy needlessly subjecting yourself to mind slavery, I cannot legally stop you, but you are not going to peddle that crap to me.

Look at the slaves of God. Start with Joseph. Yes he had a rough start with his 12 brothers, but in the end God was able to use Him and placed him in control of all of Egypt just under pharaoh. Joseph only answered to pharroah and God. His word has authority over all of israel and his brothers and all over egypt as if the pharoah Himself gave the orders. But still a slave of God.

Then Moses. Yes another difficult start but then what a general and father of a nation responsible for the fall of the 2nd dynasty of egypt, yet a slave.

David, a man after God's own heart. as a boy David learned to trust God so completely He faced lions and bears, and then was placed before a literal giant to defeat him and a whole army! Then As a slave of God was places as King!! over all 12 tribes.

In every example God shapes and purposed his slaves for great and glorious things. It is the difference between a raw diamond and a flawless 20 karat princess cut diamond. yes at the core both have a given potential and a intrinsic value, but it is the polished and cut stone that demands the greatest value why? because all the impurities and the imperfections have been removed or polished away. So anyone can see it's perfection. That is what those rough start were all about. That is why God seeks a slave. one who can not run when things get tough.. And when a slave completes his task God makes them kings. He calls us into His family..
As i have always said. slavery is little more than a word. it is God's word that has a complete different meaning. If you look to truth you will find that meaning. if you look to hate God you will apply your own understand to that word that allows you to close your mind to anything anyone has to say.