RE: There is a difference between salvation, and the rewards of Heaven
July 29, 2017 at 12:44 pm
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2017 at 12:48 pm by drfuzzy.
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(July 28, 2017 at 8:51 am)Drich Wrote:[/quote](July 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
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(July 27, 2017 at 4:01 pm)J a c k Wrote:
(July 27, 2017 at 4:41 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Oh, you're right. I find Yahweh to be a despicable monster. I also find Yahweh to be the fictitious construct of a bunch of ignorant, brutal savages.uh,no. this line
Quote: I find Yahweh to be a despicable monster.says you on some level has accepted the personage of God and see Him apart from the construct of God as you first person singularly identified God and his crimes against your sensibilities. This means You blame a deity. If you fully accepted that their was no deity then the blame would shift to the indivisuals who keep this deity going. Which you try to do in the 2nd half of the sentence, but throughout your work when you mention god you mean God not the construct of evil people. for example:
Quote: The only reason for using the wholly babble to slam the Old War Demon Rapist Genocidal Sky Daddy is that verses from that repulsive book of fairy tales are the only thing brainwashed xtians MIGHT listen to. And if they don't listen, at least some of them are sentient enough to realize that they shouldn't be pushing me to believe in their imaginary friend.Here "Sky daddy" is the evil monster who wars and genocide you hate, which is separate from the mundane christian who maybe smart enough not to try and convert you. Now if 'Sky Daddy" was a construct of man then in your story His evil would have to be transferred to the believers. After all if 'sky daddy' is evil and not real then it is those who worship that are evil. But you have seperated the evil and awarded it to God. Which means again on some level you acknowledge God
Quote:Arguing about religious beliefs does not mean I believe any of those religious beliefs or stand a snowballs chance in your non-existent hell of converting.But again if you are going to argue those beliefs then why not actually argue what is believed rather that the BS you use to prop each other up?
Quote:There is nothing written in your wholly babble that is any more relevant to my real life than a kids book about sparkly vampires.
I found the oppsite to be true... Maybe that is why I am where I am.
Quote: I do not believe in the existence of any gods, no heaven, no hell, no satan, no allah, no vishnu - no gods. I MIGHT change my mind if a deity showed up and proved it existed, but that still wouldn't mean it was worthy of anyone's worship.If a deity showed up and prooved himself to you then wouldn't make you the supreme being? If God bends to your will then are you not superior to God? Now if God claims to be the alpha and omega, then by his very nature He will not do that, but rather tell you how to meet up with Him. That He has done. I have followed those directions and I found God as promised.
Say . . . whut? You think because I just claimed that Darth Vader is evil and obsessed with power, I believe Darth Vader is REAL? You think because I claim Voldemort is a narcissistic sociopathic megalomaniac, I believe that Voldemort is REAL? The only difference is that most people don't want to spend their time trying to convince me that these fictional characters are real, and think that they are superior because they believe and I don't.
If a deity showed up and proved it's existence, this would only mean that a being with superior abilities to human kind showed up. Nothing more. And any deity capable of creating billions of galaxies is capable of proving that it exists. Particularly IF it, for some weird reason, wants a bunch of sentient apes to worship it all the time.
You found god? Do you want a medal? Do you want applause? Do you think you're supposed to preach this to the poor ignorant idiots who don't believe he exists? (What a disrespectful asshole.) No real deity needs a human to speak for it. You found god? Bring him to a TV station and have him prove it. Until you can do that, you're wasting your time and ours.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein