RE: I am confused by American christians
August 3, 2017 at 3:09 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2017 at 3:20 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 2, 2017 at 1:04 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:There are no puritans left in the US. Their beliefs petered out long, long ago...and there really wasn't much in the way of maintaining traditional beliefs in the history of american christendom..which, itself, wasn't a thing until living memory when they realized that divided they exerted less and less -political- control. Any confusion over american christianity vanishes when a person realizes that the uniquely american forms of christianity everyone wonders about are a -recent- vehicle for political affiliation, not so much a religious tradition that was formed from the long crucible of our history.(August 1, 2017 at 8:38 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think it's difficult to compare America to the UK because of the size difference, America being 40 times bigger.
Maybe it's because there's a bigger sample size to pick from or because of real differences in genetics or culture but America does seem to have more extremes of things in general.
We have groups of homeless people living in the town center, they have streets of tents in some poor areas.
We have some rough inner city areas, they have ghettos.
We have some places with expensive houses, they have more of it, billionaire mansions and so on.
Blackpool - Las Vegas.
Not that I'm saying American Christians are dicks either, but if there is a difference in religious culture I imagine it's something to do with an overall American culture and/or the sample size of the population of America.
I think it may be due to the type of early settlers. many of the first ones across to the US went to preserve their archaic views from the progressive what ever century they were fleeing and the thought and in some cases technology were frozen at the time they went.
Look at the Amish.
Traditional american christianity (whatever one means by that) is a non-issue at present. It just doesn't exist, if it ever did.
In any case, the early settlers weren't really coming here to flee progressivism (of a religious sort of otherwise) in their home countries - they were fleeing poverty..and while the poor may be remarkably faithful as a demographic, the substance of their faith is not now nor has it ever been highly regimented, formal, or traditional. It's been a clannish hodgepodge. In many respects it remains so in those same demographics. Tradition and uniformity of beliefs and regimental worship structures (both real and conceptual) is more pronounced as a tool of social stratum than of faithful deference. Meanwhile, at one point, the batshit christers (and others) were on the leading edge of technology. The amish, the quakers, the mormons...these people were all, in their own respects, early adopters. Particularly the quakewrs and the mormons - the amish did end up freezing themselves in..but, today, if you lived in an area full of them, you really couldn't tell that they had done so. Sure, they have buggys. They also have cars and electricity and attend public schools. Plenty of them work at toyota subs, here in my county. Great employees, lol.
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