The undeniable miracle at Fatima

[pabsta]

You lost me at 3 young children. You know the kind of shit I would say when I was little, especially if I thought it would make my parents happy with me? I had imaginary dogs with their own stories, who lived and died, and once gave such an impassioned speech to the church congregation after their "deaths" that some people actually believed they were real, and prayed for them. If three children think they'll get attention by saying they were visited by an angel with a message, they'd jump on that instantly.

If you read the account of the story, the children were ages 7-10 and were abducted by the police and put in jail, and told they would never see their parents again, and that they would be boiled in hot oil if they didn't say their story was false. All 3 of the children held to their story, even under such pressures. If they were just looking for attention the very first thing they would have done in such a situation would be to fess up. They didn't.

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Look, I found this picture on the internet of the sun dancing at Fatima. It came from the catholics.



It's just got to be true. All praise be to god.

 
That is a photo created for the movie, "The 13th Day". It is not an actual photo of the miracle in 1917.

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I read the news report in Portuguese. The one that came out three next day. Written by a reporter that was present at the site.
He didn't see anything... Except a few idiots claiming they were seeing the sun wobbling.
A few is most definitely not thousands.

And it is common practice, among any assembly of people where differing opinions are to be expected, to have a few agents spread out to incite a particular message on the silent majority, thus making it look like most people share that message.
Testimonies from the 60's come more than 40 years too late to be anything more than anecdotes.

 
Isn't it funny that all the testimonies gathered in 1960 from people all over the world but didn't know each other, all coincided and said the same thing?
 
By the way, after the miracle in 1917, it took the Catholic Church 13 years and thousands of pages of testimonials to investigate the matter. If they were out to just scam the world to somehow draw attention or make a profit, they wouldn't have spent so long looking into it. In the end, in 1930, the Catholic Church made an official pronouncement approving of the authenticity of the miracle.

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First of all, not all events in this world leave behind physical evidence. If I shined a bright light in your face yesterday, there is no physical evidence of it today.

Yup but you could shine it again on my face that same day . Can you get god to move the sun and have it not throw the structure of the solar system into chaos that same da.y I think not so the comparison is trivial .

 
Well thousands of people gave testimony that it appeared the sun moved in the sky, and that their clothes and the ground were suddenly instantly dried afterward. Obviously no human can make the sun move, or even pull off a trick to make it appear to move. Since this happened at an exact location and time predicted months beforehand, this is not just a random flareup of the sun. If there is a God capable of such an event, then He is certainly also capable from keeping the solar system from going into chaos.

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Even if you could prove that the sun moved, what evidence would you have that there is a god and he is the one moving it? Also if you are a person who believes that this actually happened and that it was god, don't you have to ask yourself why? Why would god choose to move the sun for a group of people instead of performing a useful miracle, like ending disease, ending evil, ending poverty, or feeding the hungry?

 
Of course, every rational human being asks themselves the questions you mentioned. I don't know if anyone will ever be able to answer those questions because only God could know the answers. But these questions don't take away from the fact that an incident certainly occurred that was beyond what any human being could do.