RE: The undeniable miracle at Fatima
August 7, 2017 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2017 at 2:24 pm by pabsta.)
(August 6, 2017 at 11:01 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(August 6, 2017 at 10:47 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Claims are not proof. And I'm not inclined to believe claims.
But there were whole bunches of people making the same claim, so they claim. I mean, how you gonna go against the numbers???[/sarcasm]
Everyone reading this knows very well that if one person were to point you out as someone who robbed a bank, people may not believe it right away. But if a CROWD of people point you out as the culprit, your goose is cooked, plain and simple. The more testimonials, the heavier the weight of those testimonials. Let's not play dumb people!
(August 6, 2017 at 11:03 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(August 6, 2017 at 10:57 pm)pabsta Wrote: So far I've yet to see anyone disprove what has been presented. Instead I'm just reading "I refuse to believe" against thousands of testimonials from people who didn't know each other.
While we're at it, we might as well pick a few random events in history that have plenty of testimonials, and deny those too. Boston tea party? Sounds fishy to me, therefore it never happened. Abe Lincoln's assassination? I don't believe it could have happened that way, therefore it never happened.
Such is the absurd position of atheists who accept history handed down to them only when it suits them, and deny what they don't personally believe. What hypocrisy. Let an atheist write our history books and we will only get part of what really happened.
And THIS is exactly the type of reaction atheists are used to getting from theists who present claims and then get defensive when those claims aren't accepted unquestioningly by us as it is the theist.
There's nothing to disprove.
Certainly nothing has been proved.
Just, as I say, a number of claims.
We have "testimonials" from all over the world of people being abducted by aliens.
Do you accept them? Or will you put a religious spin on the "experiences" of these people?
What a lame argument. I can't believe you are trying to equate alien sightings to Fatima. Alien sighting testimonials are ONE person at a time - they are very easy to dismiss because the person may not be mentally stable, may be lying, may be paid etc. You cannot say that about THOUSANDS of witnesses at Fatima all at once, most who did not know each other, and many who had different religious beliefs. C'mon now.