(August 7, 2017 at 4:00 am)pocaracas Wrote:(August 6, 2017 at 9:52 pm)pabsta Wrote:
Isn't it funny that all the testimonies gathered in 1960 from people all over the world but didn't know each other, all coincided and said the same thing?
By the way, after the miracle in 1917, it took the Catholic Church 13 years and thousands of pages of testimonials to investigate the matter. If they were out to just scam the world to somehow draw attention or make a profit, they wouldn't have spent so long looking into it. In the end, in 1930, the Catholic Church made an official pronouncement approving of the authenticity of the miracle.
Tell me... why do you present us with testimonies gathered in the 60's, when you know there are testimonies that were gathered in the few years after the event? Why not give us those that convinced the catholic church?
But, even if you had those, what is the level of evidence required for the Vatican to conclude that a miracle has indeed occurred? And do remind me how much of an uninterested party they are.
Also, if you want funny, isn't it funny that the reporter on the scene didn't see anything? But saw a few people claiming they'd seen something...
Memory is a fickle thing... I advise you to listen to the Serial podcast: https://serialpodcast.org/season-one You might learn something before it's done. HEY HEY HEY!
And if you had the thousands of pages of testimonials reviewed by the Catholic Church, would that convince you? Of course not, if you don't believe the 10 pages of testimonials gathered by the author in his book I mentioned, then presenting more testimonials to you is not going to convince you any further.
The Vatican not an interested party in this? Of course they are an interested party - they need to confirm miraculous claims are authentic before they approve or denounce them. They spent 13 years researching it as previously mentioned.
And I notice people love to try and say there were no photos taken at Fatima that day. Look again - there are photos online. You also need to keep in mind that not many people had cameras in 1917, and the ones that did certainly weren't walking around with them like they do today. For the few people that brought cameras, taking photos of the actual sun during the height of the event when people were all screaming it was the end of the world and that they were going to die, was obviously not a priority. In 1917, taking photos is the last thing I'm concerned about if I'm truly thinking I'm seconds from death.