Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?

[chimp3]

well this is part of my ongoing effort to help the believers to 'up their game' as it were, that someday we might have one here worthy of our atheist attentions in refuting an actual contender for The One True Faith.

I wouldn't consider  imposing a deadline, but I might hint vaguely that at some point in the future I might propose to staff here we institute criteria for believers that want to post here and that we phase out the current practice of allowing obvious heretics and apostates on the forum.

We were ahead of you long ago, you've never given anything worth hearing, so being worthy of an argument is completely out.

The father, Son and Holy Spirit are and have always been. Jesus called God the Father both God and Father and referred to himself as Son. We Christians have no problem distinguishing between the three of the Triune God. The problems is with you and the other atheist here, it really isn't hard if you gave it a little bit of effort.

GC

No Father would have his son murdered because other peoples kids misbehaved. Like the Parah Adumah being raised by cattle breeders to use as a sacrifice for the Third Temple, Jesus was more like livestock raised by a cattleman for ritual slaughter. So a breeder / chattel relationship is more accurate.