The undeniable miracle at Fatima

[Harry Nevis]

I give you credit, Mr. Wizard, for coming up with some good and logical questions throughout this discussion - better than most others I have seen on here. You must realize that the author of the book, "Meet the Witnesses", when gathering data for his book, placed an ad in the newspapers around Fatima to gather his testimonials, and he also contacted people in the US who immigrated since. If he spoke with people in other countries and they said they didn't see anything, that doesn't mean that the incident didn't happen either. I am not claiming the sun ACTUALLY spun, or ACTUALLY hurled toward the Earth, I'm simply pointing out that that was what the people thought when you read their testimonials. SOMETHING happened without a doubt, and that was the best way they could describe it.

As for the existence of the supernatural, that's a no-brainer. Go tag along with a paranormal investigator a few times and you will become a believer VERY quickly. It will scare the living daylights out of you. I personally know many people have been involved and it is NO joke. If you think I'm kidding, call one up and ask if you can go along. Seriously.
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So now you're saying it wasn't a miracle?

A no-brainer, huh?  From personal experience, no doubt.

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As for the claims the newspapers were anti religious you have yet to provide evidence of this . And we have evidence to the contrary that they were pro religious . The claim that people saw it remotely is debunked by the fact that none saw the actual event of the sun dancing . And people who were in the immediate area didn't see anything. And all mr wizard said.

To answer your question, I just skimmed through chapters 3 and 4 in "Meet the Witnesses", and the author explains that a Marxist group of revolutionaries had taken the country by force in 1910, so at the time of the miracle in 1917, they were in complete power and had control over the media. In the years that followed the miracle, there were 3 primary newspapers that continually made fun of the miracle. The revolutionaries publicly vowed to remove all religion from the country within 2 generations and there was much bloodshed in the years that followed the miracle. Yet the crowds continued to grow at the site of the miracle throughout the 1920s, once recorded at 400,000 in 1926. What wound up happening is, even some of the revolutionaries were convinced of the miracle, and it eventually led the whole revolution to fail.
 
The book also speaks of multiple atheists who came to make fun of the miracle and were immediate believers. The book also mentions that from what the author could gather, that the miracle was visible within 600 square miles. There is just too much to relating these short posts. I would suggest getting a copy of the book.

It's mentioned in a book!?  Well, that settles it.  Hail Mary!

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Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. It was worth a good yawn. Now what?

You obviously didn't give it long enough. You are not going to come across big cases on every call. Have them call you when they come across a big case. I personally knew a priest for 25 years where people from all over the country and even in other countries would BEG him to come and help them with paranormal related problems in their homes. These people were desperate and tried everything to get rid of the problems and no one could help them. This priest was world-famous for being one of the few that could actually help these people. Catholic prayers were the cure - proof of the supernatural. Watch episodes of, "A Haunting" - he is portrayed in many of the episodes. That show is the real deal.

So, gullible and desperate people prove the paranormal.  Nothing has ever been cured by prayer.

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Wait a minute, this guy's mounting the Edgar Cayce Defense?

I really hate the fact that I can't post a simple .gif here. This guy doesn't merit words.

A lot of people think Edgar Cayce was a Medium.  I have it on good authority he was actually an Extra Large.