The undeniable miracle at Fatima

[pabsta]

An example of the logic presented in this discussion. A conversation after an exhibition baseball game:

We can refine that analogy quite a bit:

Tom (baseball fan): Wow, you missed the exhibition baseball game yesterday! Did you hear about how that player from the Yankees hit the ball so hard that it impacted the moon?
Joe (his atheist friend): That doesn't sound possible.
Tom: Well he did, I was there and I saw him
Joe: Where's your proof?
Tom: What are you talking about! I'm telling you I was there and I saw it, and there was a large crowd there too that saw it!
Joe: Well show me the video where it happened
Tom: It was an exhibition game, so it was not televised. Though there are still shots available of the game and the large crowd
Joe: That's not enough, so I don't believe that player ever literally hit a ball to the moon
Tom: Dude, everyone at the game saw it, including some reporters who interviewed some of the fans about it afterward, and it was confirmed in newspapers the following day!
Joe: Did the newspaper articles contain a photo of the baseball sitting on the moon?
Tom: Well, no, but the articles still confirmed that it happened!
Joe: That's not enough, so I say that I can't believe it unless you provide me more evidence. Not every incident leaves behind detectable evidence, but you can't expect me to accept a claim as implausible as this without physical evidence
Tom: Well in this instance, the player hit the ball to the moon, and the ball got buried in moon dust, so there is no visible ball on the moon or other evidence. But what does that matter when I'm telling you I saw it, and the large crowd there saw it, and it was in the newspapers the following day, with statements from fans confirming they saw it?
Joe: Eyewitness testimony is unreliable. Sorry Tom, whatever you and the crowd think you saw, the batter did not actually and literally hit a baseball all the way to the moon

I have to admit, this was a pretty funny analogy you came up with. But what people in this forum are doing is taking the situation a step further. Because you don't believe something extraordinary happened with the sun, you therefore to logically conclude that NOTHING happened at all. That's like saying in my baseball analogy that because you don't believe the batter took a swipe at the pitcher that therefore the whole game never took place.

The fact remains that SOMETHING dried everyone's clothes within minutes and made them think they were going to die. Thousands of people that don't know each other, both at the site and miles away, have no reason to lie about those facts. If you think they were wrong about the sun, fine, but saying therefore NOTHING happened at all is totally retarded.