(August 10, 2017 at 4:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 10, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Seems like more lies than coincidences. Once you dismiss the church's tale there isn't much there.
So tens of thousands of people coming from all different parts of the country collaborated to fabricate this lie about seeing a moving sun, all before cell phones and the internet existed?
No we are discounting the word of a couple of thousand people stupid enough to look directly at the sun for minutes on end. Fact, the majority of the c 30,000 people at Fatima saw nothing unusual that day, because they knew well enough not to look directly at the sun. Fact looking directly at the sun will cause your pupils to take a number of actions to defend themselves inlcuding watering, rapid blinking, rapid changes to the size of the iris and rapid movement of the eye. All these will make it seem like the sun is dancing in the sky (and then you've got the after images). Fact the accounts of the sun moving differ and are contradictory, you cannot at the same time have one person saying the sun dancing and another saying it moving from side to side at the same time without at least one being wrong. And final fact, in more recent similar miracles it's been found that people reporting similar solar movements suffer retinal damage consistent with staring at the sun too long.
So instead of an undeniable miraclre we've got an undeniable bunch of idiots blinding themselves. Which destroys the single girl's word over whether she ever saw a fictional dead woman.
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