The undeniable miracle at Fatima

[Simon Moon]

Amazing looking back at this discussion at the double standards followed by the atheists. "Atheist forums: where double standards are THE standard!!"

Thousands of testimonials from a group of people are declared unreliable. Yet if an atheist thinks he has heard a rumor that someone at Fatima DIDN'T see something, suddenly that one testimonial has all the value in the world! You think people don't see this double standard? It's also interesting how not a single person in this discussion supported their argument that there were people at Fatima who didn't see anything. Now we all know why that is now don't we ???? Because the testimonials say the opposite. But then testimonials are no good, so you are back to square one. You are living a lie people.

Not a double standard. Just a demonstration of how unreliable eye witness testimony is.

Please give us a method of figuring out how to tell the difference between the reliability of those that claim they saw something, and those that say they did not.

And most amazing of all, you have to love all the vulgarities and insults that appear post to post - they so eloquently flow out of your mouths and make your posts SO much more convincing. Not. Do you have ANY idea how much this makes you look like imbeciles and destroys your credibility? A simple example: if I ask a teenage kid, "what's 8x9?", and he immediately responds back with, "Get the #$%^ out of here you &($#", what would that immediately tell you? It would immediately tell you that he doesnt know the answer and that he is embarrassed that you put him on the spot, otherwise he would've just given the answer. 98% of the posts in this asylum are the same way - full of vulgarities and insults right out of the gate because you guys have no solid answers. You make up answers on-the-fly and just throw them out there and they are batted down immediately. Pretty ridiculous.

You think a few cuss words are vulgar?!

Are they more vulgar than this?:



Or this?



Or this?

I always used to wonder why atheists are always so angry and bitter, but now it's more obvious to me. You guys are constantly fighting your consciences when facts are pointed out to you. It's a never-ending internal struggle that can never lead to happiness. Then you spend much of your life in dark dungeons like this place, and even if you have some good questions in mind, you are fueled by peer pressure to squash them and instead type vulgarities and insults in their place. You stay on the couch and don't even look into things except through random websites that you don't even confirm the authenticity of. You'll notice people who have religion in their lives are HAPPY. It's not normal to be walking around bitter and angry 24/7 - Time to wake up guys.

We're upset because of how the, real world, negative consequences of unsupported religious beliefs effects the world we live in.

Sorry to inform you, but the countries with the highest percentage of atheist population (Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Japan, Netherlands), have: the lowest crime rates, lowest poverty rates, lowest infant mortality, highest education and literacy rates, best chance of improving ones economic status, etc.