(August 14, 2017 at 10:03 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What he posted about atheists was condescending and blanketed, yes. But there are many people here who post condescending and blanketed things about theists quite frequently as well. Personally I don't like either being done. But if you're ok with one side of the fence doing it, it doesn't make much sense to call out the other side for doing it as well. Otherwise it's a double standard and a bit hypocritical.
Um who? Specific quotes with names. You have spent lots of time here to know we are all individuals.
Our blasphemy of holy books and and the words in them, or blasphemy of the bigotry and violence humans get out of those writings is not the same one bit.
If you are willing for example to accept that the Koran and Hadiths have been used to justify cruelty to others, to say the bible has never been used for such is a lie, it has been.
I have myself equated the God of the bible as a bully and I stand by that. Not as an indictment of those who believe. But like reviewing a bad movie. You and I go to the same movie, you like it and I find it to be horrible. That is not the same as saying you deserve death because I find that book to be horrible. It just means as a piece of literature I don't find it to be good like you do.
Much like you can point to things in the Koran and Hadiths you don't like.
Most of us here know how to separate the individual from what the individual claims. Not liking your book does not mean I want you dead, it just means I don't value it. I have always said that I value my species capability of being compassionate and POTENTIAL for empathy. The only difference between you and I is that I don't see our species behaviors as being handed down to us, but in us already.
Criticizing the tribal claims of antiquity, and blaspheming the modern bigotry that still exists today is not lumping everyone int the same camp.
I can value the likes of Ann Frank without valuing everything modern Israel is doing. I can value Malala without valuing the Koran. I can value MLK without valuing the bible itself. I like you CL but no, I cannot lie to you and say I think the bible is a good book. I do agree your empathy leads you to the kind stories in it, but that same book is used by others to justify very horrible things, in the same way the Koran is used to justify horrible things.
All three of those religions were started in the same region, fighting over the same land and were all written in a very tribal age of kings. Those books do not reflect modern pluralism because the were written for the people of the times the were written in. Now again, in saying that most here, and especially not me, most here are not out to seek the forced end of any religion via use of government. But criticism and blasphemy of old claims is not the same as using those books to promote bigotry and violence towards others. You know most of us here would not nor do not promote violence to theists.
So when you say "you do it too, " Be specific, names and quotes. Generalizations don't give anyone any context to respond.
