(August 16, 2017 at 1:11 am)Khemikal Wrote: Did you ever get the impression that Teddy was conscious? Mine wasn;t in the habit of expounding upon how it felt in a convincing way - still loved that fucking thing though, lol. Blast from the past man, well remembered.lol I sometimes got the impression that Teddy was insincere, and that he might be plotting to kill me in my sleep. But that's just me.
Quote: electrified things isn't observing electricity? That's an awfully torturous usage of the word observe - and it also means that a voltimeter can;t be used to observe electrical current.I hadn't looked at it in that way, but technically we do not and cannot observe electricity directly. So +1 to you for pointing that out.
Nevertheless, since the theory of electricity is derived FROM observations, then we've established a context for truth-in-context: so long as my voltmeter gives appropriate readings, I can go ahead and hook up my cell phone or whatever, and predict that it will charge and continue to function.
The context of the study of mind is not established in this way, from external observations. It starts from what most would call a brute fact, and spreads out from there. In other words, it is a case of projection rather than one of inference.
Projection and inference cannot be equated in the way that you are trying to equate the study of mind and the study of electricity.
Quote:That's a good question. If there's no distinction - then you're either a p-zombie or something is wrong with the p-zombie postulate, or both. What do you think?I can't see any distinction between subjective awareness and the lack of it, physically speaking, and I don't believe in the soul. My best guess is that there is a LOT of consciousness, all over the place: maybe all quantum mechanics with the resolution of superpositions into discrete states or whatever. That doesn't mean I understand or endorse the OP view, but I do know about Penrose and philosophically speaking I like that position.
(I think it's both)
Human consciousness, in my view, would be the perfectly normal mental activity going on all around us, but attached to a specific context-- say, the senses and a name.