Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?

[Godscreated]

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1) Why? Is it because it forces you to make a decision, forces you out of your comfort zone, that's only temporary. 
 
 2) Why? Justice has to be served for all and that in itself eliminates 'blaming the victim.' There is no hypocrisy on God's part and the moral failure is on humanity. God provided a way and those who do not choose to follow Jesus can not have their sins forgiven. How fair would it be for those who accepted Christ and are forgiven and then God forgive those who rejected Christ and fought against those who accepted Him. I'm going to say this until someone understands it, God is eternal and all sin that's committed is against His eternal nature and without forgiveness that sin will remain forever and thus the eternal punishment. It doesn't matter whether you agree with God, it's not your universe, your creation. God rules over all of it and His word is finial, there is no arguing your way out of it.

3) The bold above by me shows me you were never in the knowledge of what Christ actually did. You think Christ called out to the Father because He was in physical pain, rehash that thought. Jesus spent quite a bit of time being beaten by a whip that was as cruel as any devise ever invented by man to be used upon man, He never cried out once, even though His flesh was being stripped from His body. Have a try at it and see how long you would last. You should understand what Jesus was crying out about, if you ever do you might just see Him in the light that makes a difference in your life. When I realized it I was broken.

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Good deities do not create hells.  I will not compromise on this point -- ever.

There are no god's but the one true living God, that being said you have nothing to compare God to. You may not, doesn't change the fact that hell is as real as we are and that those who refuse Jesus will be there, I get this from the scriptures and I'm using it as information not threats, so please don't get bent over this statement.

Eternal torture is not justice.  I will also not compromise on this point.

The law and the court belong to the eternal God who says justice is eternal, justice being reward and punishment. This is another thing your stubborn nature can not change and results in the same outcome, sorry but that's how it will be according to God.

Finally, as I believe "Christ" to be a fictionalized character and consider substitutionary atonement to be utterly morally bankrupt in all respects, "Christ" did nothing at all.

You can believe this till the day you die (I'm hoping not), but it want change the fact that Christ is real and gave up much to make it possible for us to have eternal life with Him. You have your opinion about substitutionary atonement but substitutionary atonement was His choice even before creation. God's requirement to enter heaven is for one to be sinless and there is no way under the sun we could ever live a life sinless. There is no way we could ever pay for our own sin, it's just not humanly possible. So one must accept Christ for who He is and what He did for us, He did this of His own free will and love for us. All your opinions about who Christ is and what He did want change the reality of the eternal justice God will give to all people, like I said above, it's His laws and court.

You are still broken, GC, both intellectually and morally, and it is your beliefs that made you so.

  Intellectually and morally broken, why because I care enough to tell people what I know as fact, I'm sorry you see it that way. In the end all that matters is God's truth and that I have accepted it totally. I'm not ashame of what I profess and who I believe in, it is a life that brings great joy to me.

GC

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God doesn't treat people like rubbish, people choose hell and God gives them what they chose.

No sane person chooses eternal torture.  "People choose hell" is just a feeble excuse you use to avoid confronting the fact that you willingly worship an evil god.

   It's not torture it is a chosen punishment, there's a big difference. I worship a loving God, one who gave His all for me and the rest of the world, it's just to bad you can't see what I know. You say no sane person would chose eternal hell, I'm in agreement.

GC

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No, he doesn't, rubbish..generally, isn't subjected to eternal torture.  My dog might choose to drink antifreeze.  I won't let him.  My kids choose to stick metallic objects into light sockets.  I don't let them.  Both disobey me...constantly, and yet somehow I manage not to brutalize either of them for it - no matter how much they "deserve" it.

Your god is so comically evil and derelict that rather than be horrified..it just makes me giggle.  In any case, god doesn't deal in anything, god doesn't exist.  His followers, however..do, and they peddle some sick shit.

 If they deserve punishment then they should receive it, punishment in their case isn't a bad thing (well maybe in their opinion it is), it is a teaching tool to help set them on a good coarse for the future.

 Looks like you are going to stay the coarse even if it means eternal punishment, the post above this to Astreja, I reply about what it take to choose such a coarse.

GC