(August 3, 2011 at 1:38 am)PlatinumDoodles Wrote: This is sort of like the "If a tree falls in the forest" argument, but I would like to add something to it.
The reason the tree does in fact make a sound is because it is part of a universe in which consciousness does/has/will exist.
"Sound" is oscillating pressure wave moving through matter, would that exist without consciousness? Yes. Would the experience of hearing exist? No.
Quote: I am proposing that in order for the the multiverse and every universe within to exist, at least one of said universes must contain consciousness.
Our universe contains some form of time and at some point within that time consciousness existed, so, the universe did in fact exist before consciousness came about because it would contain consciousness at some point in time.
My point is: If there was no consciousness in any universe in the multiverse, there would be no one to prove that it existed, if one cannot prove it, one cannot say for certain that it exists. I feel that the multiverse somehow has it's own laws of "physics" that force consciousness to come about.
Please discuss, this is a new theory I'm working on and I would love some input.
Two lines of argument come to mind to refute that notion;
1 .If consciousness is an emergent phenomenon then it has to emerge from something else, if it emerged from the universe then by way of causality the universe necessarily existed first - If the universe existed before consciousness then it can necessarily exist without.
2. Do you think we have proven everything about the universe? No, right? Does the stuff we haven't proved to exist still exist? Yes? Then it seems like a conscious being having proof that something exists is in no way necessary for that thing to exist.
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