Better terminology for "Father and Son" ?

[Astreja]

You seem to be running out of new answers, I'm starting to see some of the same statements from you. I have evidence and so I know He is worthy of worship.

That's because I'm satisfied with the answers I've given, so now I'm just paraphrasing and coming up with an occasional new example to illustrate my points.

You need to show that one or neither exist, you are making a statement from uncertainty.

Nope.  I'm content with my 99.999... certainty that your god is fictional and don't have to prove anything to you.

Well on my part I would rather have spiritual encounters with the One who created that that others find worth worship.

That's fine.  Not my thing, though.

Fine if that's how you want it, then why continue a conversation with me. I haven't dropped the ball, you have failed to catch the ball, you let it fall to the groung because you are afraid to examine what it contains.

I shall not be silenced.  You are propagating what I consider an immoral and cowardly philosophy, and it shall not go unchallenged.

I was chosen by God as all Christians are to spread the good word about Jesus.

I reiterate that your mission is imaginary, taken primarily from an old book.  I don't believe for an instant that an actual god would choose someone like you to speak on its behalf.

I doubt your 8th grade knowledge is anywhere near what I know now. And no one told me to reject the science that goes against the Bible that comes by way of understanding both can't be right and I choose to side with the God who created all things.

Shall we put our respective current knowledge to the test, then, in a controlled environment with fact-checking?  When I was in grade 8 I had already won a regional math competition, could explain the inner workings of thermonuclear weapons to a layman, and had begun to acquire a rather substantial amount of practical knowledge in everything from carpentry to electronics.  (IIRC, that was also the year I wrote 3 final exams for 3 different math classes and averaged 99%.)

That was back in 1971-72.  I just turned 60, and haven't stopped learning.  You, on the other hand, are clearly filtering incoming information through the Bible without seriously challenging the validity of that approach.

Rocks can't be dated especially with any accuracy. You would be duplicating a task that has no truth in dating rocks. Probably not, but through science I can fix your air conditioner.

You are quite wrong about radiometric dating, as it uses multiple pairings of radioactive isotope half-lives to test the same sample in different ways, arriving at overlapping date ranges that identify the probable age of the sample.

And I wouldn't let you anywhere near my air conditioner.  I don't trust you, and I already have a dependable HVAC supplier.

Did {vulnerable people} ask you to {protect them}? Maybe they would like to be informed and by the way who are you to say who is and isn't vulnerable.

Judging from my experiences as a regular on one particular ex-Christian forum, there are a lot of people who are still suffering PTSD from the ghastly psychological abuse that they were subjected to as a child.  I tend to get roundly cheered whenever I tear a strip off some "believe or burn" Christian who has stumbled into our sanctuary.

I would rather see people come to Christ because they want to have a loving relationship with Him.

Then you must stop talking about hell altogether.  Love and fear are antithetical to each other.

However those who choose hell are there by choice...

That is pure, unadulterated pig excrement.  People do not generally choose pain, let alone an eternity of agony.  That's just something you and other believers keep repeating so that you don't have to face up to the prospect that you are worshipping an evil god.

You know that wasn't what I was talking about. Naming some of the old Jewish laws that are not part of Christianity shows your ignorance of the scriptures.

Oh, I think I know them at least as well as you do.  Remember when Jesus said that the law would not pass away?  If you truly follow Jesus, and not Paul the Antichrist, you are obligated to keep those silly laws.

God made the Sabbath for man and if all would abide by it people could get rest from a weeks labor...

I get 2 days off every week (3 this week because it's the Labour Day weekend).  If my schedule changed and I got Monday and Tuesday off instead of Saturday and Sunday, I'd be fine with that.  There's nothing special about the Sabbath; it's just a day of the week.

God gave the first laws and condemned the first murder...

Nope.  The Code of Ur-Nammu (ca. 2100-2050 BCE) and the better-known Code of Hammurabi (1754 BCE) both predate the book of Exodus (now thought to be written around the 6th century BCE, around the time of the Babylonian exile).  Deuteronomy is a bit older, perhaps the 8th century BCE, but the Babylonians had written codes of law over a thousand years before the Biblical 10 commandments showed up.

As for the "first murder," there is no evidence that Cain and Abel were real people.  It is far more likely that they represent the factions of agriculture versus herdsmen in the competition for land in the region.

Medical science no longer recognizes God unfortunately, but it is His power that that over rides all the things people think they know. I will have a new body, perfect at that.

I'll let you in on a little secret, GC:  I am a medical professional.  I type reports for doctors of neurology, hypertension, hepatology, nephrology, physical medicine, respirology, gynecology, infectious disease, radiology, allergy and immunology, gastroenterology, genetics, ear/nose/throat, and various other specialties.

I've been at this for 11 years so far, and at last count I've typed over 60,000 reports (usually knocking off 25-30 per day, 5 days a week, plus 200+ short reports per week when I was in the X-ray Department).

Guess how many miracle cures I've heard reported in all that time?  

Getting deities and other silly stuff out of the health care system is a very, very good thing indeed.  It has allowed modern medicine to grow by leaps and bounds.  The demon theory of illness is gone.  We now use antibiotics rather than the blood of sacrificed doves to cure leprosy.  Genetics is now learning how to "edit" genomes to repair them, making it possible for children to avoid inheriting diseases.

No, I'm quite sure that once your current body is gone that'll be the end of the line for you.  Perhaps you'll get lucky and some of your carbon will wind up in an exotic flower somewhere.

I hope you will be joining us {in heaven}.

Not interested.

I have no superstitions, those are for the ones who do not believe in the living God.

As far as I'm concerned, your entire belief system is one massive superstition.

...we have been secured for Him through grace and our protection is guaranteed by the creator of the universe.

Good luck with that.  Christians don't appear to be any more protected than anyone else, but rather adept at making up excuses like "God was testing me"  or "God needed another angel in heaven" when things go awry.