(September 4, 2017 at 7:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(September 4, 2017 at 7:33 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: With all due respect, is reason too hot for you to handle? Does the substitution of rhetorical devices for logical argumentation constitute a valid proof in your opinion?
I don't think any human can claim they represent reason but the chosen ones.
I rely on the chosen ones, and I rely on the guide, that has clear evidence for his authority.
Neither Dawkins nor Harris represent the right path of reasoning and what reasoning leads to.
Reasoning and reflection is the path the Quran calls to and doesn't value worshiping God without it.
Why should I trust you guys know how to reason properly? Because you emphasize on it? So what?
I have seen nothing but a mockery of reason from you guys.
The best reasoning is mocked, the best reflections are dismissed, and you are immersed in doubt for the sake of doubting....
If you don't know when to stop doubting, then doubting becomes purposeless, you have to recognize when to realize truth and acknowledge it. When evidence is presented even if it goes against your most treasured desires, you got to abandon it.
The Truth is reason is best represented by God's chosen ones, who can teach us how to recite God's book and connect us to him through that recitation.
They are light and the eyes we are meant to perceive by.
(September 4, 2017 at 7:36 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: "Blah, blah, blah."
Empty words that you think have meaning because you want them to.
As opposed to you, which wants the words to have no meaning because you don't want them to?
No.
We just don't take words from a discredited book written on behalf of an illiterate child molester to be anything more than what it is: a control mechanism over the weak minded.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"