(September 4, 2017 at 8:01 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(September 4, 2017 at 7:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't think any human can claim they represent reason but the chosen ones.
I rely on the chosen ones, and I rely on the guide, that has clear evidence for his authority.
Neither Dawkins nor Harris represent the right path of reasoning and what reasoning leads to.
Reasoning and reflection is the path the Quran calls to and doesn't value worshiping God without it.
Why should I trust you guys know how to reason properly? Because you emphasize on it? So what?
I have seen nothing but a mockery of reason from you guys.
The best reasoning is mocked, the best reflections are dismissed, and you are immersed in doubt for the sake of doubting....
If you don't know when to stop doubting, then doubting becomes purposeless, you have to recognize when to realize truth and acknowledge it. When evidence is presented even if it goes against your most treasured desires, you got to abandon it.
The Truth is reason is best represented by God's chosen ones, who can teach us how to recite God's book and connect us to him through that recitation.
They are light and the eyes we are meant to perceive by.
As opposed to you, which wants the words to have no meaning because you don't want them to?
No.
We just don't take words from a discredited book written on behalf of an illiterate child molester to be anything more than what it is: a control mechanism over the weak minded.
Chances that the paedophile rapist was illiterate are actually pretty slim. Being a merchant in 7thcentury CE and dealing in international merchandise pretty much requires literacy (both reading and writing) to survive.
The whole "our child rapist was illiterate" thing is a fudge to get round the fact that the qu'ran didn't appear until near two centuries after the originators alleged death. Yes, I know there are older versions of the book around, but nobody's allowed see them unless deemed suitably qualified by a bunch of very doctrinaire mullahs. I wonder why?
Urbs Antiqua Fuit Studiisque Asperrima Belli
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