(September 13, 2017 at 7:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(September 13, 2017 at 6:17 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: JFC Neo, can't you read? Math (human math) describes the reality, not creates it.
What I am reading sounds to me like question begging on a massive scale. The statements "People use mathematics to describe reality" and "Mathematical objects are not real" are incompatible statements.
Maybe they're real human constructs that map to the empirical world real well. Those don't seem like mutually exclusive choices.