(September 13, 2017 at 7:53 pm)bennyboy Wrote:You're the one creating the association, in case you didn't understand how that works. I'm asking you about your agreement. In this case, you believe that you agree with them on the issue but contend that you probably don;t agree with them on the reasons. Here's the problem. Our racists are also, largely, genteel racists. They don't say "I want to keep these monuments to racism because racism!" - they talk about their statue enthusiasm. They talk about free speech. They talk about whitewashing history, ironically.
(September 13, 2017 at 7:50 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Well, perhaps not the hood wearing ones...but you seem to support the sentiments of the ones in ties who seem normal. Mission accomplished, from their POV.
Not really, because if it were a statue of Martin Luther King, or even Jesus, I'd hold the same position. Your campaign of guilt by association is noted and I reject it completely. If white supremacists want those statues to remain because they are an act of ongoing insult and aggression, then they are dicks. That they and I both think it's better to keep statues of confederate leaders is not even nearly a good enough reason to draw an association, and you're a dick for thinking it is.
These would all be poor arguments even if they weren't racists...it's not because they're racists that these are poor arguments. As the many responses you;ve recieved to them have tried to explain. In this instance, you would have people believe that you incidentally agreed with racists. That the shit they use as a set of talking points...which you have contained yourself to in the discussion of the issue, is also..apparrently, incidental.
I offer this not to suggest that you're a racist, by association or otherwise, but to suggest that you're a normal human being upon whom the campaign to normalize racism through genteel talking points has worked. It's expected to work. That's why it's done. Mission accomplished.
As to the turn the conversation has taken......it doesn't matter an ounce whether or not the local racists love the shit out of them. Oh I'm sorry, excuse me. The freedom loving statue enthusiasts trying to save our history.
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