This Has to Stop

[Harry Nevis]

@CL- I wouldn't be too offended about the kudos. You never know why a person might give kudos. It doesn't mean they agree with everything said in the post.

Meh, I wouldn't give any credit to a post where someone says they hate an entire group of people and would rather see them die than teach their kids their faith, even if he said something later on that I agreed with. He would have lost me long before then. But, thats just me i guess...

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One is synonymous with brainwashing. I thought that was a commonly understood facet of indoctrination. This ignorance on your part is what alarms me so greatly about even moderation in this topic.

And you aren't one of the two I was referring to that had put me on ignore, I was referring to Neo-Craptastic and Gullible Cretin. I extended them the same middle finger and on the rare occasion I see the content of their posts because someone quoted them, I'm never disappointed that they're as vapid and proving our points as always.

Can you be more specific about what you would consider "brainwashing" vs just teaching your kid about your faith?

That it's true?  That it is supported by facts? That the bible is the word of god?  That we know god exists? ad infinitum.

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Are you fucking kidding me? I'm not a dictionary, go look it up, but I should have thought, and hoped, that it's fairly fucking self-explanatory. I don't need to constantly be given more reasons to see you as a robot with severe bugs in your programming. Your intellectual laziness is your lookout, until it starts to affect others, which is what pisses me off. When a condition like that is contagious only because of what you're not prevented from doing to others, that's a problem for the whole human race.

But I'll humor you, one last time. In my view, which I would assume is fairly commonplace among rational skeptics, indoctrination involves the systematic censoring of anything that contradicts a biblical worldview, propaganda-like tactics to prevent victims from ever questioning their limited teachings, denying without reason facts that are demonstrable no matter how solidly presented or explained, never permitted to accept anything that does not fit in with a worldview they are not free to develop on their own in the first place, threatened with force or implied threats to encourage a fearful coercion so as to stifle independent thought or questioning of whatever it is they're being taught (including threats of financial support being cut off or outright social ostracism), teaching them WHAT to think and never how to think, being taught to mistrust and/or never listen at all to anyone who disagrees, being taught to believe in things that are flatly contradicted by basic knowledge of reality and to require little to no evidence for that which they are taught...

That good enough? I bet you barely fit 10% of that description yourself, which I think we can both agree is a good thing. You're not the kind of Ham sandwich I'm worried about.

I googled the definition of indoctrination, and the results varied slightly. Some where simply "to teach a specific ideology or world view" others were more along the lines of "teaching to accept uncritically". Nothing nearly as specific as the paragraph you wrote above.

Also, you're a really nasty person.

And you seem willfully ignorant.