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Why Atheism Replaces Religion In Developed Countries
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RE: Why Atheism Replaces Religion In Developed Countries
(August 5, 2011 at 8:56 pm)Salty Amy Wrote:
(August 5, 2011 at 8:24 pm)BethK Wrote: The USA is the most INDEBTED country in the world, with the per-capita share of the National debt being around $186,000 and the average personal debt being around $50,000

No it's not http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychar...debt-guide

I never said everybody in Us is rich, just that being poor in the US is very different than being poor in a 3rd world country, have you seen slumdog millionaire? If you did you now what a slum is, tell me do you have anything like that in USA?
I am sorry for your personal problems but that also doesn't change the fact that USA is still one of the richest countries in the world.

I do believe that this crisis of yours is only beggining, besides the economy I think there is a political crisis were the polarisation reached a very dangerous level that can make the economic problems a lot worse I do think you are going to figure it out eventually.


(August 5, 2011 at 8:56 pm)Salty Amy Wrote: No it's not http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychar...debt-guide

I never said everybody in Us is rich, just that being poor in the US is very different than being poor in a 3rd world country, have you seen slumdog millionaire? If you did you now what a slum is, tell me do you have anything like that in USA?
I am sorry for your personal problems but that also doesn't change the fact that USA is still one of the richest countries in the world.

I do believe that this crisis of yours is only beggining, besides the economy I think there is a political crisis were the polarisation reached a very dangerous level that can make the economic problems a lot worse I do think you are going to figure it out eventually.

I have lived in countries with third world conditions besides this one. I was an high school exchange student in Brazil in 1976 and 1977 (though the only reason I was able to go was because my mother won $5,000 in the Michigan State Lottery one month before I was scheduled to depart). Eu vivei em Birigüi, 10 km do leste de Araçatuba, no Estado de São Paulo. The families I stayed with are far wealthier than my own single mother family was. (My father, chief breadwinner, was killed in the Vietnam War.)

There are many poor areas in Brazil; the favelas of Rio, districts in São Paulo, &c. Even Birigui and Araçatuba have districts which are poor. So does the USA. And it is interesting to note that Brazil's general literacy rate was higher in the 1970s than our previous state of Oklahoma is now. (I also taught Adult Literacy along with my wife when I came to be with her.) Our schools are overrun with people trying to put unintelligent design in place of science classes.

I got to witness the changes in Brazilian politics while I was there, as President Gen. Ernesto Geisel set about dismantling the military dictatorship and fostered real democratic change. In one of the families I stayed with, the father of the family ran for mayor from the opposition Movimento Democratico Brasileiro party, unthinkable in Birigüi before, as it was considered an area of military importance because of a dam, and only the Arena party could run before I was there.

Many Third World nations have problems accessing such things as clean water. So do we. Here there is uranium and cyanide in the water. Can't remove those with a boil order.

We are not a wealthy nation because we borrowed our wealth rather than built it: at the end of World War Two we were the largest creditor in the world. We are now the largest debtor. (While your link does show that as a percentage of GDP nations such as the UK are higher than us, we certainly owe more than any other country in terms of dollars.)

Our wealth was squandered in a mass of borrowing to pay for a TV lifestyle that few people here actually live. )And we don't own a TV, but that doesn't matter anyway because there are no TV stations here).

When I lived in Brazil, I was amazed at the number of people who actually believed the American television programming, that everything was either like the Old West or that everyone was wealthy like Beverly Hills. Or maybe they were just having me on.

Our cities and states are so strapped for money they are having private companies run prisons and selling freeways and parking meters to foreign companies to operate (like the Chicago Skyway to Cintas of Spain).

The standard model of business here today is to purchase undervalued companies and break them up and sell them, not create new wealth. Our most popular news network, Fox, is owned by an Australian that can't keep his reporters out of other people's voicemail and only pushes his agenda of "make the rich richer and it will help the poor." And by-and-large our poor here believe it.

I note looking at a couple of investment house Websites today that they recommend those investing in government bonds get out of US treasuries and invest in Brazilian bonds. Seems they trust Brazil better to pay back its debts.

I also lived in Spain, when I was in the Navy. I lived in town with the Spanish, not on base. Rota, a town of 20,000, had twenty-four hour bus service, taxis, a hospital, train service to all of Europe was 15 km away, which you could also get to by bus. We had a post office there, and numerous banks. I could get a telephone by walking downtown.

Here in Western Nebraska, the hospital is 80 km away, so are the doctors, the nearest bus station is in Denver, almost 300 km away. There are no taxis. We might as well be in Amazonas. (Wait, Manaus has taxis, hospitals, and busses.)

Since my wife brought it up, I was a homeless disabled veteran for eleven years, from 1996 to 2007, tossed from the Navy for epilepsy and divorced by my first wife for the same. When I met my wife BethK, I was indeed fortunate she looked past my poverty and saw someone she loved .When she took me in, I had my clothes and my musical instrument. That is everything I possessed.

I am quite familiar with what poverty is in this country. It is just like poverty in every other country, it sucks eggs.-James

"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."
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RE: Why Atheism Replaces Religion In Developed Countries - by Anymouse - August 5, 2011 at 9:41 pm

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