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Can the Universe Exist without consciousness?
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RE: Can the Universe Exist without consciousness?
(August 5, 2011 at 12:23 pm)Napoleon Wrote: Does it?

He/She said there would be no point to the passage of time. I was trying to point out that time only has a point because WE measure it.

Obviously objectively it serves other purposes but I was under the impression that the OP was talking about something subjective (consciousness).

I gota disagree, it doesn't only have a point because we measure it, it has a point because of the change in the increase of the disorder of a system, without time nothing would progress and entropy would not exist - Our measurement of time is really just a way to quantify regularities, such as the motion of the earth around the sun, the frequency a caesium atom vibrates in an atomic clock etc.

I believe the point the OP was trying to make in this regard is that because all 'moments' in time exist simultaneously in our 4dimensional universe there in a sense exists both consciousness and the universe simultaneously, just like the two dots on this line .--------. exist 'simultaneously', it was his conclusion from this that is misguided, he was arguing that because consciousness and the beginning of the universe exist simultaneously from a 4th dimensional perspective consciousness must be a necessary part.

This is of course under the premise of a B-Theory of time.

His whole argument was essentially a big non sequitur.

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RE: Can the Universe Exist without consciousness? - by theVOID - August 5, 2011 at 10:31 pm

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