RE: The universe is just one enormous 'Soul Filtering machine'
September 27, 2017 at 4:34 pm
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2017 at 4:36 pm by Simon Moon.)
(September 26, 2017 at 9:38 pm)SteveII Wrote: [quote='Simon Moon' pid='1626145' dateline='1506459396']
Then, doesn't it seem unfair, to cultures that have never heard of Jesus, to send missionaries to tell them? Seems to me, they are better off not knowing, so they won't be judged on whether they believe or not.
The point is that your objection to God revealing himself so imperfectly is not all that strong.
Quote:So then, don't create people at all. Just create the souls he wants to spend eternity with in the first place. Instead of creating a situation that assures, that some high percentage of your creation will not make it through the Soul Filtering device.
Is there free will in Heaven?
Quote:You mean souls without (or with limited) free will? That seems to have been done with the angelic beings. We are made in his image with the certain abilities because it seems thinking, rational beings capable of choice, morality, and a real relationship between creator and creature seems to be the pinnacle of anything anyone could ever create--including God. Even a high failure rate does not outweigh the reward to him and those that do respond.
You seem to gloss right over that little phrase, 'high failure rate'. In you dogma, a 'high failure rate' results in billions of 'souls' being subject to eternal punishment, or 'separation from god', or whatever idiotic result you believe occurs, for a finite thought crime.
Quote:Why wouldn't there be free will in heaven? However, before you think that is an argument in your favor, you are comparing entirely different circumstances. We have a preexisting relationship with God, we have new bodies, we are in a new place, and we constantly in the presence of Christ--none of those things would apply to this life.
So, your 'god' is able to design a dimension, where free will exists, and humans have free will, yet are unable to do evil. Why didn't he just create the dimension we currently inhabit, with humans having free will, yet are unable to do evil?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
