(September 27, 2017 at 4:34 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:Quote:You mean souls without (or with limited) free will? That seems to have been done with the angelic beings. We are made in his image with the certain abilities because it seems thinking, rational beings capable of choice, morality, and a real relationship between creator and creature seems to be the pinnacle of anything anyone could ever create--including God. Even a high failure rate does not outweigh the reward to him and those that do respond.
You seem to gloss right over that little phrase, 'high failure rate'. In you dogma, a 'high failure rate' results in billions of 'souls' being subject to eternal punishment, or 'separation from god', or whatever idiotic result you believe occurs, for a finite thought crime.
Finite thought crime. Is that what we are talking about? I don't think so. Rejecting the only mean of salvation has profound consequences inherent in the rejection. Rejecting infinite salvation has a proportionally infinite negative consequence.
Quote:But you can't get to the "heaven" dimension without first having experienced this dimension. As you pointed out, a filter has already been applied. The flaw in your logic is using a generic human when clearly the dimension of "heaven" is filled with specific humans having specific experiences that led to them being there.Quote:Why wouldn't there be free will in heaven? However, before you think that is an argument in your favor, you are comparing entirely different circumstances. We have a preexisting relationship with God, we have new bodies, we are in a new place, and we constantly in the presence of Christ--none of those things would apply to this life.
So, your 'god' is able to design a dimension, where free will exists, and humans have free will, yet are unable to do evil. Why didn't he just create the dimension we currently inhabit, with humans having free will, yet are unable to do evil?