Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?

[Pat Mustard]

Voyager started out well enough, but had one repeating plot point that just bugged the shit out of me to the point it became unwatchable, hence the Gilligan's Island reference:

"This technology will be able to send us home! Yay! But, wait. It won't work with our tech/can't be taken off the planet/requires more power than the ship can produce/would violate the prime directive/warp 10 will turn us into giant slugs/ad infinitum." No way that shit flies when half your crew are members of a terrorist organization.

Kinda like having a guy on the island who could build an atomic bomb out of a pineapple, a couple coconuts and some palm leaves who couldn't fix a two foot hole in a boat.

I think the worst single thing in Voyager wasn't the incompetent captain getting the crew stranded in the Delta quadrant for the lack of a timer fuse (the intelligent thing to do would be to beam the torpedo across with a timer, failing that the clever thing would have been to beam a red shirt over with orders to detonate, the heroic but duty derelicting thing would have been to beam over yourself with it, Janeway decided to channel Zapp Brannigan), not Chakotay getting buck naked in Tattoo, not the "direction of human evolution" in Threshold, not even Der Sheisskopf nearly blowing up the ship with cheese, but that moment in The Cloud where they handwave the holodeck being on by saying it's run off power incompatible with the whole rest of Starfleet.

Ladies and gentlemen I give you voodoo shark

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Voyager started out well enough, but had one repeating plot point that just bugged the shit out of me to the point it became unwatchable, hence the Gilligan's Island reference:

"This technology will be able to send us home! Yay! But, wait. It won't work with our tech/can't be taken off the planet/requires more power than the ship can produce/would violate the prime directive/warp 10 will turn us into giant slugs/ad infinitum." No way that shit flies when half your crew are members of a terrorist organization.

Kinda like having a guy on the island who could build an atomic bomb out of a pineapple, a couple coconuts and some palm leaves who couldn't fix a two foot hole in a boat.

Thought for sure you were going to object to the short lived girl who went on to morph into a 'god', well, at least an alien able to do stuff in ways that would be over our head to understand.

Way to go triggering my PTSD over Elogium. Thank you very much.

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Yeah, they kinda lost the plot with Kes fairly early on.

Though they could have developed the character better.

Seven-of-Nine was a better character, generally, once they figured out how to write properly for the character.

Neelix should have been ejected into space the moment they met him.

But the Doctor was definitely a highlight of the show.

You want to hear the real story about them getting rid of Kes, it was supposed to be Harry Kim, mainly because he couldn't act. But in the hiatus between seasons 3 & 4 (when poor dumb Harry was getting tentacle raped by Species 8472) Garret Wang was voted one of the 50 most beautiful people in the world by People magazine. The showrunners, desperate for ratings, cancelled the kill of Kim subplot and decided to get rid of Kes instead.

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I didn't mind Neelix so much, though Kes's story did get kinda silly. The character I despised on Voyager was Chakotay, what a pretentious prick he was. Kinda disliked B'Ellana, though she grew on me over time. I agree the series got better a few seasons in. One of my favorite episodes was " Death Wish", but I've always been a fan of Q episodes.

DS9 was really amazing, though it took time for me to enjoy it. I was also turned off by the idea of a stationary Trek show, but once I gave it a chance, I was glad I did. Though there were still terribad characters. I never liked Kira.

I saw "Chakotay" irl at a nerd convention. The guy was funny as!
Maybe they scripted his character bad or he wasn't a great actor...

Two words as to why Chakotay (or as Torres calls him, Chocolate Day) came out so bad: Jamake Highwater.