"Militia", what that meant then.

[Brian37]

Still small bands of pewpew'ers going off whenever they got pissed off doesn't seem like anything I'd support.

A big difference between then and now is that each colony had some degree of self rule.  The only beef was with the oversight insisted upon by the king.  So each colony had a representative body which could meet with the others and come to consensus on what to do about the king.

We don't have that.  All we have are regional and national representative bodies - which already hold the power formerly represented by that king.  Pretty different situation.

I find it absurd to interpret the second amendment as sanctioning insurrection.  And permitting the holding of guns for that reason is just nutty.  An endless escalation of violence is not a great solution to any problem, as is thinking that any ad hoc band of insurrectionists would represent your interests better than the current rule of law.

The Second Amendment was added to the Constitution to give the slavers the means to put down slave insurrections.  The Revolutionary War was fought to ensure that slavery remained legal in the colonies.

Ok I agree, so why would anyone defend it then?

That still does not change that by the time that Adams and Jefferson died slavery in the North was a majority GONE, and it does not change that several of the founders, even if not all WERE abolitionists.

Nor does it change that the war was not fought to keep slavery, but to fight England. The language of 3/5ths was not because everyone wanted it, but because they were politicians. 

That is nothing close to what the South fought for. 

I think, even with all the flaws the founders had and the conflicts on slavery that nobody should deny existed, the language they put in ink DID set the stage for Lincoln. 

But, if one rightfully points out that the 2nd amendment was used to prevent a slave revolt, all the more reason the right is full of shit. 

With the founders it was a mixed bag. With the Civil war it was literally back and white.

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