Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite

[Little Rik]

Wrong again Cross.  

There is no need for getting all these intellectual jargon of .......... metaphysical naturalism and methodological naturalism in the way.
My understanding of what exist is so so much more simple.

Jargon . . . Lol. It's called a distinction. Apologies for the syllables. I forgot who I was writing to.

Jargon indeed Cross.

To understand consciousness physical science is not of any help but this is a point that you will understand later on.
If you need a plumber to fix your leaking pipes you call a plumber not an electrician and if you need to fix your
electrical wiring you call an electrician not a plumber.
All these ideas such as the metaphysical naturalism and methodological naturalism come from people that are totally outsider to the science that study consciousness.  

Second there is the non-physical reality which physical science can not study.

Not in terms of consciousness as a collection of experienced qualia, but it can certainly study it indirectly as conscious states are represented directly in MRIs. It's only your dogmatic insistence that consciousness does not arise from brain activity that blinds you to this.

What a foolish statement Cross!  

As far as the body is alive you may well see some degree of consciousness states by using MRI that however stop once the body-brain die because the consciousness is gone and that was the point we were talking about.
You try to see any consciousness activity once the bloke is dead if you can.
All you can see at that stage is a body-brain in a stage of meltdown so to speak.
No consciousness to be found anywhere inside the body-brain.  

For this second reality we need a different type of science better known as intuitional science.

You'd do well to just call it what it is: intuition. There's no need to dress up your yogic experiences as a different type of science. They are what they are. Others who meditate and experience (for them) significant, even profound, states of consciousness don't necessarily ascribe it to anything more than deliberately induced changes in their brain activity. If we were to perform an MRI scan on you during meditation and/or pranayama, what do you suppose we'd see?

1) You would see that the main glands or cakras radiating light according to the individual and if you would perform an MRI on a rapist or murderer you would see a very dark image.
2) Intuitional science is the most important science available to humans.
It is the science that allow you to reach the goal of life.

Atheists unfortunately got the demented idea that consciousness is a product of the brain so physical science suppose to be able to study it.

You've never convinced anyone that consciousness isn't a product of the brain, notwithstanding your incessant yammering about NDEs. Let's perform radically invasive surgery on your brain and find out what becomes of your consciousness. You game?

Wrong again Cross.  

1) For me this is a confrontation rather than trying to convince anyone so whether I convince or no this is secondary.
2) NDEs are clear evidence not BS.
A brain void of blood and oxygen can not put together such experiences.
If you would ask a doctor whether a dead bloke can put together such experiences he-she will think that ou are nuts.  

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Wrong once again Khem.
The fact that you can not see anywhere a dead consciousness next to a dead body clearly means that the consciousness is immortal.  

Oh, is that what that means?  Sort of like how, when you cant find any cake left in the cake pan, this demonstrates the immortality of the cake, or?  

Obviously you toss sentences after sentences without even thinking what the hell you are talking about.

It would be like saying..............Can you provide a single example of a a driver that is not of a vehicle nature.
Since when the driver is of the vehicle nature and since when the consciousness which is abstract by nature is of a physical nature?  

So, another hard no, then?  Howsabout this..rather than me asking you if you can provide an example of anything you make claims to..why not just skip to some example for some claim which you -are- willing to or capable of providing?

I think you'll get more traction that way.  Just an opinion.

When you came in this world Khem you got a body from your parents but you parents can not possibly give to you a consciousness.
Consciousness is something that you conquer life after life.
Nobody can give that to you or take away from you.
Life teach us that you are the master of your life in the good or the bad.
But don't hurry too much trying to understand how the system works or where the evidences will come from.
Piece by piece the puzzle will be complete.
A pity that an atheist will take double the time to complete this puzzle but that is your choice Khem.