Irational fear of hell still naggs me from time to time

[Drich]

Fun fact: the word 'god' doesn't appear in the Constitution.

So? the consitution set up and defines the thre branches of government how they operate, the powers they are limited to and the dues each branch has. God is not apart of that electoral process.

Fun fact: most of the Founding Fathers were deists,

you atheist sure must ot like fact, as you so often speak without have any of them backing you up
https://www.quora.com/How-many-of-the-U-...-Christian
now if you click on the link each assertion each name each religion is linked to a wiki page which is linked to several other resource manytimes the official page to that specific individual.:

Founding Fathers
We do have some lists to use to identify the Founding Fathers of the United States:

   Signers of the Continental Association (1774)
   Signers of the United States Declaration of Independence (1776)
   Signers of the Articles of Confederation  (1777)
   Delegates to the Constitutional Convention (1787)

Christian Defined
And we can easily define Christian  by including anyone who was Protestant  (Episcopalian, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Lutherans, Dutch Reformed, and Methodists) or Roman Catholic and excluding anyone who leaned toward Deism.

The Count
Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants (28 Episcopalian, 8 Presbyterians, 7  Congregationalists, 2  Lutherans, 2 Dutch Reformed, and 2  Methodists), and 2 were Roman Catholics (1)

That leaves 51 Christians and 4 others.  The other four being

   Benjamin Franklin (Deist)
   George Washington (Deist or Episcopal)
   James Madison (Deist or Episcopal)
   Hugh Williamson (Deist or Presbyterian)

Significantly Not Present
Thomas Jefferson (Christian deism), John Adams (Unitarianism), John Hancock  (Unitarian Universalism), and Samuel Adams (Congregational)
believing in a god that was akin to a clock maker rather than one who played voyeur.

So basically you have Franklin and Jefferson if you do not count his own self identification as being 'protestant, without a label' first.

Fun fact: I actually did my senior university project on the sermons of a local Revolutionary War pastor, and how much his rhetoric played (if it played any role at all) in forming and supporting the attitudes of rebellion among the common folk.

was it a mail away university? was it maybe a British university (because they still think they won the war because of the 1812 war)

One of the benefits of living in one of the original colonies is having the history of the era at my fingertips

one of the better things of haveing the interwebs is you can provide evidence that shoots down local folk lore.

.  Actually being able to touch and hold the manuscripts was pretty amazing from a historical POV.  If any of you have the good fortune to visit NH, and enjoy history, check out Strawbery Banke (http://www.strawberybanke.org/).

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Anyway, while it's true that the Founders generally believed in a god, it certainly wasn't the same one most Christians, especially non-denominationals and/or evangelicals, today believe in.  These were men of the Enlightenment.  And even then, their actions often belied their words (see: slavery).  

no, it was the very same God. they simply understood more. they like I do understand that following God is not about a series of rules or traditions that must be observed. that it is a service one based on an individuals abilities rather than an arbutary bar of set results.

Ultimately, the genesis of our government has far more to do with British Common Law than anything to do with religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jz1TjCphXE
The correct answer is: What is the Iroquois Confederacy
Religion was not meant to be the seat of government nor was anything the British were doing.

 And if you don't believe me, you can ask my former professor (https://cola.unh.edu/faculty-member/james-farrell), who's Catholic (as though that matters).

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Or you can provide Mr. Farrell or his brother william the FACTS based evidence I provided you and you'll get to hear him make his best best motor boat impersonation "But, But, But, But"

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So tell me some more about what your America would look like without a  constitution or bill of rights...

The Constitution and Bill of Rights were created specifically to avoid theocracies, you moron.

Here's one for you:

The Treaty of Tripoli (created under Washington, and ratified under Adams)

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries"

Hey dumb ass... This isn't about forming a theocracy

You beloved minimalist simply hates the constitution alltogether!!! and says America would be a better place without one. No government no bill of right, just some hippy nut job version of communist law.

So when he says I'm crazy I simply ask him to explain his version of commie/socialism to us again.

Why can't you idiots ever read what is on page?? Why must you all assume that all of you/atheist are the 'sane ones?' Why must you add narrative when one clearly does not exist? That's what you had to do when you accused me of wanting to start a theocracy.. Hows about you dumb asses asking a question or two? I get tired of taking you all to task when you screw up this bad.